DEAR ANN WIDDECOMBE

Or should that read, “OH dear, Ann Widdecombe”?

The  best response, I reckon, came from Mr Walton, who commented on the Twitter post, thus:

𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗼𝗻 

🔶

@channingwalton
“We didn’t know what we voted for”. Show us the plan you voted for. then!
We all must know people who voted “Leave” for wildly different visions of the future, which some politician or another promised.
Because there was no coherent plan for leave. No one in government thought for a minute that it was going to happen. And David Cameron, throughout the campaign, refused to make even the smallest preparations for leaving.
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So what you had was a series of ideas put forward by a series of people who were not in government and never would be. Might as well have asked a member of the cast of a pantomime.
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Or a contestant on “Strictly Come Dancing”.
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Ah, yes… well, OK…
The current state of the two main UK parties and the impasse, about which we have talked endlessly, and which is still ongoing, in the London parliament proves that even 3 whole years after the referendum they still can’t agree on what “leave” means.
How could people have known it would turn out like this?
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I had hoped to get to Glasgow for the march on Saturday, but domestic duties have got in the way, I’m sad to say.
I was hoping to meet up with folk that I’ve known for so long, but never met, and some I’ve only just encountered.
But, if any other Munguinites are going and want to meet up with other Munguinites… you can always leave initial messages on here.
Hope it’s a fantastic day.
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54 thoughts on “DEAR ANN WIDDECOMBE”

  1. No comment about the Tory woman (well none that isn’t rude and patronising!) 😀 😀

    Seriously disappointed to miss the march and rally but may catch some of it as we head home. Hope everyone has a terrific day!

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    1. The only thing I thought she did well, was when she commented that the was “something of the night” about Michael Howard.

      Something?

      More like Everything!

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  2. Won’t make the march, unfortunately have to work.
    Thought Ms widders was the new Margaret Rutherford but not as good at acting.
    She did have a small part in the House of Fools Panto, widow twankie tory.
    Interesting stuff that POLLS in Scotland show support for farage, don’t get it but it should give us a fair idea of the number of englandland nationalists in our midst.
    Hopefully the numbers will be actually very small, Greens are polling similar to the maybot’s ruth davidson party.

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    1. Interesting polling.

      Brexit had support in Scotland… after all 38% voted for it, and given the mess the Tories have made of it, I don’t think it’s desperately surprising that Farage has picked up some support. Nor is it really surprising that the Tories’s support has fallen badly.

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      1. Well, I imagine if I had utterly lost my mind, then the Farage mob would be a home from home. Does anyone agree that this is simply a re-alignment of pro-Brexit forces? Y’know, the extreme right playing the sort of games not a soul North of the Border would have countenanced?

        The 38% you mention can divide in any way it wants. I doubt it will grow. Farage and May are incredibly poor politicians, they are now reduced to fighting between themselves for a minority of voters, at least up here.

        Y’know, probably everyone in that mad and sad group, believes what they say.

        Though all they are doing is moving the deck chairs on the Titanic.

        I apologise for the cliché.

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        1. Id think that the 38% has diminished, but there are surely some who still want Brexit in our country.

          They aren’t likely to vote SNP, Green or LibDem as they are solidly pro EU.

          But remember that there are independence supporters who don;t want to be in Europe. I respect that even if I disagree with it.

          May and her Tories have proved themselves to be like ferrets in a sack, and Labour are pretty much the same.

          I haven’t a clue what either party stands for.

          I do know what Farage stands for.

          (Batten’s lot seem to have gone full-blown racist now. They just hate everyone except … well except no one.)

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          1. You say,

            “I’d like to think their numbers have diminished too.”

            Perhaps their numbers are less than 38%, we have to argue that their’s pathetic screams may, now , be maybe from a small minority, of pretty sad folk.

            Just so’s you know my opinion trispw, we may finally be in the ascendancy!

            That is no small thing!

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  3. The expression on her dance partners face as he tries to lift her without heavy equipment made me laugh out loud.

    There was me thinking we had to leave the EU before they did away with Health & Safety.

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  4. I shall simply leave you with the thought that Ms W professes to be a devout Christian and on a TV programme the other day she said that the only being who knew what was in her mind was Almighty God. Is her God a good Tory, I wonder? ‘Love thy neighbour as thyself’ unless he/she’s from Europe, Russia, China, Scotland, just about anywhere else on the planet, or a bit poor seems to be the message from devout Tories.

    Victoria Wood did a very funny Christmas sketch about AW some years ago. I saw it again recently.

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  5. Pity ann has crossed to ukip.
    Seems the maybot has just sacked williamson as defense secretary.
    Ann might have got the recall as baroness.
    Anyway this is the opportunity untruthful ruthie has been waiting on, with all her experience of defense matters, she is a colonel in the army, just slot in there.
    Williamson has been found as the source of the Huawei leak, he blamed the civil service last week for it.
    Then went on a wee trip to get out the way.
    This should be interesting, who can the maybot bribe to change their position on Brexit?

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    1. Fast moving in the maybot’s government.
      Penny mordunce, sorry mordunt, appointed as first non gender specific defence secretary.
      Just dawned on me that the last person to be upgraded to the maybot’s cabinet would be one of the Scottish tory MPs, she only needs one tea maker and he’s about to be replaced by a Teasmade.
      Game of musical chairs in the cabinet, last one in to be the new PM.
      Surely she can’t hold out much longer with this level of talent being given offices of state.

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            1. That’s a generous valuation. I’ve just been reminded that our new defence secretary was particularly vocal prior to the Brexit referendum on the prospect of of Turkey joining the EU and in particular about Turkish nationals and their culture finding their way here as a consequence. With a history of indulging in xenophobic scare stories and misrepresenting EU membership criteria and the veto existing members had on new members I wonder whether she’s best placed to occupy this important and diplomatically sensitive office of state. Having wondered…I think not.

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              1. No, I think not too… but as I’ve said before, the Downing Street cat has turned up his whiskers at the notion of any cabinet position, so they are kinda out of candidates.

                They are going to have to start recycling.

                David Davis for Brexit secretary?

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      1. I see that the boy Gavin has sworn on his children’s lives that it was not him what done it…

        If he is lying again (and he’s a Tory, so what wouldn’t he?), how will he ever face his kids.

        If she got it wrong (and she’s Theresa May, so why wouldn’t she?) surely she’s got to resign right away.

        What a bunch of chaotically incompetent muppets they are.

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      2. She also retains her job as Minister for Women and Equalities. Is defence not a priority now for the BritNat Tory party? Or maybe they are running out of stooges.

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        1. They asked the Downing Street cat, but his reply was unprintable on a family website…. or even Munguin’s New Republic!

          Good questions from Stewart!

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    2. LOL…. Oh that’s really funny, Dave.

      Williamson was really a humdinger of a prize idiot amongst a cabinet of prize idiots.

      He was like the head boy invited to the staff meeting.

      Utter fool.

      Well… defence secretary?

      Jacob?

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  6. Tris has something happened to your twitter account? That’s two days I’ve had a “not found” when I’ve searched. It’s always worked before.

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  7. So there you have it, tonight’s rUK media say that rUK is the First Country in the World to declare an environment Crisis.
    Funny I thought the FM, the leader of a world Country, declared one at the Spring Conference of the SNP.
    Obviously I must have misheard.
    Anyway Gavin Swears on the life of his children HE didn’t leak, I suppose someone else did it then Gav, maybe a special advisor misheard your instructions, like all the leakage from the cabinet meetings.
    The Carmichael defence in Parallel with the Dugdale.
    Yes politicians are expected to lie or be economic with the truth.

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    1. Interesting discussions this morning on radio.

      As I said, whoever is wrong (and one of them must be), it’s always nice to see the Tory Party fall even further into chaos.

      I’d say that if I had to chose one cabinet secretary to fall out with, an ex-chief whip is not the one I’d go for.

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  8. One of the responses to her vid there called her a thatcherite.

    It took me about 5 mins of thinking to realise it was meant as a complement.

    Says it all, really.

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  9. Just had a wee look at your Twitter thing above (I am not on twitter) and saw a good question asked about other countries changing currency (eu counties moving to the euro), and how did it go? Looking at the replies everyone seem to say it went smoothly.

    However one person asked what if in Scotland you have a mortgage with an English bank? This made me wonder – in the Republic of Ireland can you have a mortgage with a Northern Ireland bank? And if so, then it obviously works?

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    1. I understand that one of the four freedoms you can use other EU countries financial facilities. I imagine that this will end whenever the UK gets round to leaving the EU, if it ever does.

      But yes, there will have to be arrangements made for those who have British mortgages in Spanish or French or Maltese, or whatever, homes.

      It may be that you cannot take out a new mortgage or loan or whatever, with an EU bank, but only in some mad imagination wold anyone think that suddenly loans made only a few years ago would immediately become void.

      The same thing, I imagine, would happen with the UK and Scotland, despite what Mr Sit Down is babbling on about in an incoherent fashion.

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  10. Made the effort, went out and voted in Leics council elections.

    Choice :

    Labour – candidate is “ex-BNP”*
    Tory – candidate is “ex-BNP”*
    LibDems – no idea but who believes them?

    So I voted Green. He won’t get in & statistically is probably a right-wing little Englander but meh he’s not the red/blue tory arsecheeks with Orange tory in the middle…

    No I’m really not exaggerating. At least this time there isn’t a candidate who’s actually been convicted of “racial crimes but a long time ago” – turns out to be arson on an Asian business.

    Welcome to Leicester. This is central England – 2019 style….

    *there was a leak of their membership best part of 10 years ago, went online, that’s why BNP “died” (migrated really).

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    1. Also this is the first time I’ve bothered voting in this area of England since Stephen Dorrell (remember him) retired – well apart from Treezas snap election where I’d explained “anyone but tories” to them.

      Dorrell would be considered Marxist by most of the “people” standing for office these days 😦

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      1. My apologies to Labour candidate who I said was ex-BNP. Turns out it was me recognising him from when he “was” Labour. Previous slate should have read : Tory, Tory, LibDem, Green. You can vote for two but apparently the tory voters who turned out were “too old” to understand so green nearly got in.

        Normally Labour try to put up a candidate – and have done well in the past – but frankly what’s the point for them now? If you can’t get people to vote for you when there’s a “zombie govt” in power then you’re screwed.

        tl;dr still living in delusional little englander land, not for much longer hopefully

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  11. I vote for Fluffy as the new Defence Secretary.

    Hang on … sorry, may have got that wrong. Senior moment, got mixed up between ‘Deference’ and ‘Defence’, so forget my suggestion. It’s just that he’s so good at the deference stuff.

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  12. Ann widdi

    Well if she can change
    Her God without a seconds
    Thought then why not her
    Political party to whom she swore Undying loyalty .🤓
    (The bigoted type )

    She was on the wireless
    And someone said your just
    Too old to think of the future
    The questioner come for some
    Criticism.

    But I thought they had a valid
    Point lots of ukippers I have
    Met are old and live and want
    To vote for a imaginary past
    UK .

    And screw the younger generations.

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    1. Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.

      Whether it is Brexit, climate change , Scottish independence or whatever else, people in their 70s and 80s won’t be here to see the effects.

      In the case of Brexit, even Jacob Rees Mogg has said that it may be 50 years before the full advantages of Brexit are felt.

      Well, that’s far away that most of us won’t be around to enjoy it… and its a bit of a cheek when they did say that there were no down sides to Brexit, but forgot to mention that that was only a valid point of view if you could have around for 50 years.

      On another subject, Niko.

      As you know I was a Corbyn admirer when he was elected. Not for Scotland, because what he knows about Scotland you could write on the back of a post card… but for England.

      I wonder what you, as a Labour man, think of his most recent stance on Brexit…

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      1. Hey trispw!

        “Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.””Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.””Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.”

        I have now two generations of off-spring. The children and the grand-children.

        I do care absolutely, that Scottish children and grandchildren should have a better life than I. I am completely aware that decisions I might make right now, in this present, matters.

        I will, kind of obviously, cast a vote for their future, y’know of my children and grandchildren, and not me.

        Err, Independence obviously!

        Which makes me muddled:

        Your comment:

        “Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.”

        As I say, I am doing this for my kids and grandkids, not for me. There are various theories about why folk, or indeed creatures are sacrificial, but it all boils down to either a continuation of a species or a genome or an idea.

        Old folk seem to see that, younger folk, not so much!

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        1. Oh I know that there are many old people who care very much.

          But some, seem only to think of themselves.

          So you have a predominance of older folk who vote Tory, for union with the UK and against the EU.

          It’s not in the least bit muddled to disagree with that, and to vote contrary to the trend.

          There are, by the same measure, some young people who vote Tory, don’t want independence and hate Europe.

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          1. Your ‘some’ para two, is just untrue. I know a lot of old folk that want the same as the younger folk. It is ridiculous to think that most grandparents, me included, would be less caring about our future than that of our kids or grandkids.

            I have felt that way for a while.

            YMMV.

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            1. I’ve said over and over again, Douglas, that I know that there are huge numbers of older people who voted for independence and who voted to remain in the EU (and who NEVER vote Tory)

              But undeniably the statistics show that the younger the ager group the more likely people are to have voted for independence and Remain (and the less likely they are to vote Tory).

              I’m not and have never suggested that all older people are the same, nor that all younger people are.

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  13. Trispw,

    The inability to even argue with you without your stupid AI making me look like an idiot is unacceptable shit. You really, really need to move to a new platform. That was utterly embarassing bullshit, your AI is a piece of junk:

    “Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.””Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.””Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.”

    Utterly nonsense.

    Please talk to someone about fixing your web site.

    It is pretty poor at passing on meaning.

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  14. Bloody Hell, I love you trispw, but this is becoming an unnavigable web site. Corrections should be allowed after posting, e.g.

    ““Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.”“Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.”“Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.””Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.””Well, I dunno how old she is and of course I reckon everyone is entitled to their vote, no matter their age, but I reckon older people should remember that it’s the young who have to live with the long term effects of political decisions made now.”

    How shit is that?

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