Morning all…The beauty of East Greenland.Bunny girl.White wolf family.A boy and his best friend.Benin.Oil Seed Rape.Don’t look now. It’s Theresa May back in the Commons.Do you mind… I’m having a wash.Food market in China.Nouakchott, Mauritania. You could say I was a bit long in the tooth…Could someone tell my mum about prams?I hereby bring this meeting to order. Item 1: What are we going to do about Boris?4,800-year-old tree. Besties.Wow!nah nah nah nah nah.St Kilda.No, you can’t share.
Nice picture of the Bristlecone Pine! The Bristlecones are not much to look at, but the Methuselah Tree, the oldest confirmed Bristlecone in the Bristlecone Pine Forest of the White Mountains of California started growing before the Egyptians built the pyramids…..about 1600 years before Moses received the commandments…..2800 years before Jesus……etc, etc. We’re talkin’ OLD here!
There was actually an older Bristlecone growing in eastern Nevada…..maybe 5,000 years old……..called the Prometheus Tree. In 1964, it was cut down by Donal Rusk Currey, a graduate student, and the US Forest Service under controversial circumstances. It was taken back to the lab for study.
The identity and exact location of the Methuselah Tree in “Methuselah Grove” of the Bristlecone Pine Forest within Inyo National Forest is not divulged by the national Forest Service. After the part they played in the Prometheus Tree debacle, the Forest Service is NOW very protective of the Bristlecones.
From Wiki, the Prometheus STUMP (lower left) and some remains of the Prometheus tree (center), in the Wheeler Bristlecone Pine Grove at Great Basin National Park near Baker, Nevada:
A few years ago, there was news of the dating of a 5,069 year old Bristlecone, but the records have been lost, and it’s no longer on the official list of old trees.
Yes, the Prometheus matter is debated. In some tellings, Currey was doing his best with a scientific coring that went wrong, and he didn’t really know how old the tree was when he and the Forest Service decided to cut it down. But in other, less generous tellings, there is doubt about why it was even necessary to take the core as part of a National Science Foundation grant to develop a glacial timeline for the region. And in any event, even in the 1960’s, it was already suspected that the Bristlecones of the Great Basin……stretching from Utah, across Nevada, into eastern California…….were very very old.
Anyway, this is an interesting article I think, and it paints Currey in a favorable light.
And the oldest ones, more than 5,000 years, are surely older than the Prometheus Tree was. But the business of not telling people where the really old ones are, once they’ve been found, has its drawbacks. Edmund Schulman and Tom Harlan dated the Methuselah Tree in 1957, BUT…….
Wiki: “An older Bristlecone Pine was reportedly discovered by Tom Harlan in 2009, based on a sample core collected in 1957. According to Harlan, the tree was 5,062 years old and still living in 2010. However, neither the tree nor the sample core could be located after Harlan’s death in 2013.”
This one may have died centuries ago.
On the other hand, the youngsters make an interesting green forest.
Danny: The tree story reminded me of a ‘documentary’ 😂😂 I watched on the National GeoHistovery channel a while back where a bunch of overweight, gun toting, head to foot camouflage bedecked rednecks were trying to catch a Bigfoot. Their intended method of proving Bigfoots existence was to find one, shoot it, then proudly present the corpse to the world media.
It made me wonder if there’s a recurring theme regarding irreplaceable living things in America?
Not that Britain can be smug of course, given its behaviour past and present around the world.🙄
Yes Greig, you have a point. And the overweight rednecks don’t even confine themselves to living things. Million year old rock formations are in danger too.
LOL Tris……I heard that the idiot received death threats while his case was pending in court. Perhaps that’s just a bit extreme as a punishment when you consider the tens of thousands of such rock formations in Utah, but the people there take their “hoodoos” very seriously. 🙂 Bryce Canyon has LOTS of them…….big ones……lots of them with a rock on top.
oh those are wonderful. Loved the politically correct bunny girl. I notice we have had more cats recently, perhaps Tris is mellowing towards them – after all pictures don’t poo on his plants.
So thanks for cheering me up – I’ve jiggered my back and am in agony. Now off to search the internet for funny animal videos in bid to take mind off it. Like BoJo as PM wasn’t pain enough…
Sorry to hear about your back, PP. But glad you were cheered by the photos
I’ve just seen more of these cute cat pics recently. There is no softening in my attitude to the horrors who invade Munguin’s grounds and dig up his bulbs, etc.
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Nice picture of the Bristlecone Pine! The Bristlecones are not much to look at, but the Methuselah Tree, the oldest confirmed Bristlecone in the Bristlecone Pine Forest of the White Mountains of California started growing before the Egyptians built the pyramids…..about 1600 years before Moses received the commandments…..2800 years before Jesus……etc, etc. We’re talkin’ OLD here!
There was actually an older Bristlecone growing in eastern Nevada…..maybe 5,000 years old……..called the Prometheus Tree. In 1964, it was cut down by Donal Rusk Currey, a graduate student, and the US Forest Service under controversial circumstances. It was taken back to the lab for study.
The identity and exact location of the Methuselah Tree in “Methuselah Grove” of the Bristlecone Pine Forest within Inyo National Forest is not divulged by the national Forest Service. After the part they played in the Prometheus Tree debacle, the Forest Service is NOW very protective of the Bristlecones.
From Wiki, the Prometheus STUMP (lower left) and some remains of the Prometheus tree (center), in the Wheeler Bristlecone Pine Grove at Great Basin National Park near Baker, Nevada:
A few years ago, there was news of the dating of a 5,069 year old Bristlecone, but the records have been lost, and it’s no longer on the official list of old trees.
Pinus Longaeva:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_longaeva
Methuselah Tree:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah_(tree)
Prometheus Tree:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(tree)
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Imagine the indignity of living for 5000 years and being cut down by some human in their 20s.
I see that he tried to “core” the tree but failed. But the information on the exercise seems a bit uncertain. But it seems an unfortunate thing to do.
I see that Currey lived to be 70. A deal short of his adversary!
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Yes, the Prometheus matter is debated. In some tellings, Currey was doing his best with a scientific coring that went wrong, and he didn’t really know how old the tree was when he and the Forest Service decided to cut it down. But in other, less generous tellings, there is doubt about why it was even necessary to take the core as part of a National Science Foundation grant to develop a glacial timeline for the region. And in any event, even in the 1960’s, it was already suspected that the Bristlecones of the Great Basin……stretching from Utah, across Nevada, into eastern California…….were very very old.
Anyway, this is an interesting article I think, and it paints Currey in a favorable light.
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/oldest-living-tree-tells-all/
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Yes, interesting, Danny. I guess, we should be grateful that folk have the good sense not to let anyone know where to find the oldest trees.
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And the oldest ones, more than 5,000 years, are surely older than the Prometheus Tree was. But the business of not telling people where the really old ones are, once they’ve been found, has its drawbacks. Edmund Schulman and Tom Harlan dated the Methuselah Tree in 1957, BUT…….
Wiki: “An older Bristlecone Pine was reportedly discovered by Tom Harlan in 2009, based on a sample core collected in 1957. According to Harlan, the tree was 5,062 years old and still living in 2010. However, neither the tree nor the sample core could be located after Harlan’s death in 2013.”
This one may have died centuries ago.
On the other hand, the youngsters make an interesting green forest.
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They aren’t the prettiest of trees, to be fair.
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Not pretty, of no interest to the lumber industry, and they grow where almost nothing else can grow. These trees are no dummies. 😉
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Smart trees!
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Danny: The tree story reminded me of a ‘documentary’ 😂😂 I watched on the National GeoHistovery channel a while back where a bunch of overweight, gun toting, head to foot camouflage bedecked rednecks were trying to catch a Bigfoot. Their intended method of proving Bigfoots existence was to find one, shoot it, then proudly present the corpse to the world media.
It made me wonder if there’s a recurring theme regarding irreplaceable living things in America?
Not that Britain can be smug of course, given its behaviour past and present around the world.🙄
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Yes Greig, you have a point. And the overweight rednecks don’t even confine themselves to living things. Million year old rock formations are in danger too.
https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=57695025&itype=CMSID
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I really wanted that to fall on him.
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Yes, the way he was between the rocks, imagine if it had fallen the other direction. This guy was not the brightest apple on the tree….LOL.
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Ha ha… ‘one little bit of dirt held it up…’, yep, and another (rather L A R G E R) bit of dirt dislodged it.
What a roaster.
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LOL Tris……I heard that the idiot received death threats while his case was pending in court. Perhaps that’s just a bit extreme as a punishment when you consider the tens of thousands of such rock formations in Utah, but the people there take their “hoodoos” very seriously. 🙂 Bryce Canyon has LOTS of them…….big ones……lots of them with a rock on top.
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Britain? Smug? Surely not!!!!!!! 🙂
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oh those are wonderful. Loved the politically correct bunny girl. I notice we have had more cats recently, perhaps Tris is mellowing towards them – after all pictures don’t poo on his plants.
So thanks for cheering me up – I’ve jiggered my back and am in agony. Now off to search the internet for funny animal videos in bid to take mind off it. Like BoJo as PM wasn’t pain enough…
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Sorry to hear about your back, PP. But glad you were cheered by the photos
I’ve just seen more of these cute cat pics recently. There is no softening in my attitude to the horrors who invade Munguin’s grounds and dig up his bulbs, etc.
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Tris is going through is back cat-alogue. Hope your back recovers soon.
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Ho Ho Ho.., Marcia
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haha Marcia. And thanks for the kind wishes. Never known pain like it.
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How did you do it, PP?
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god knows – just woke up in agony yesterday, luckily older sibling has helped out with some tasks. Maybe Santa can bring me a new back.
Anyway, the internet trawl has found the remake of Flashdance – or something
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LOL LOL… What a danser.
I reckon you must had turned over the wrong way in bed last night.
That’s so annoying becasue there’s nothing you can do about it.
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Sorry to hear about your back, here is one source of cute beastie vids … enjoy! 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDodoSite/videos
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Oh wow… look at this one…
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Relaxing music for Sunday
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Oh… that was lovely. Thanks Marcia.
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Here is a good relaxing one from Azerbaijan ;
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I was sure I’d commented on this, Marcia. First of all, it’s brilliant. What talent. But goodness me the lads age badly with the effort of playing it.
Anyone know what the instruments are…
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Great pics, Tris, though I was initially a bit worried that the wee lassie was going to eat all the rabbits one after another 🐰:-)
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Awww. I reall hope not!
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