John Major always refused to rely on DUP as he realised the consequences for Ireland. Tories today put their career before peace in Ireland.
First the UK voted to leave the EU. A mistake, in my opinion, and handled incredibly badly by the UK government, given the narrowness of the overall result and the massive variations between the constituent countries.
Part of that was a chronic quality of leadership up for offer and the terrible choice that the Tories made in “Strong and Stable”.
Says much about the London commentariat that they are now shocked at what appalling knuckle-draggers the DUP are, not having noticed before.
If there were a time to hold an election, it would have been when the Tories chose a new leader, and with her, a new direction. Certainly before the notification to the EU that Article 50 had been invoked and the ticking of the clock had commenced.
However, Strong and Stable kept telling us that she had no intention of calling an election… until, that is, we were on borrowed time.
Sinn Fein says the Tories are breaching the Good Friday Agreement for favouring one side over the other, they’re playing with fire.
In common with everything else the woman does, it was a misjudgement. And in addition to wasting over a hundred million of our money, she put us through weeks of misery listening to her pathetic wailing, cost our political parties (that don’t have a magic money tree of off-shorers to donate), hundreds of thousands. And in the end, she lost her majority, made a fool of herself and her united kingdom, and delayed the start of the Brexit talks by a further 6 weeks.
Strange that she’s apparently so exercised about DUPs execrable LGBTI stance but was happy to defend the Rape Clause
It’s quite difficult to credit that one woman could be quite so incompetent and could have caused quite so much inconvenience to so many people. But she was and she has.
And now she has decided to compound it by teaming up with some neanderthal party from Northern Ireland, who won’t work on Sunday, believe that the whole of life is descended from Noah and his Mrs, consider gay people to be worse than paedophiles (remember Mrs Robinson), and have police check women’s homes to ensure that they haven’t bought any abortion pills over the net.
Just seen someone describe the DUP manifesto as “basically just the bible, with fortnightly bin collections” Too real #ge2017
Never mind that it will put the Good Friday Agreement at risk by showing favouritism to the Protestant side over the Catholics. Never mind that it makes the EU talks much more complex. Never mind that it may even be illegal.
And will she go? No, she will not.
She says she’s here (to be laughed at?) for 5 years.
Of course, her party says the opposite. And she’ll be gone by the end of the summer.
And we may have to shake the money tree again for another £113 million.
Oh, what it is to be British and have all that money to waste on her vanity.
There’s a vacancy for UKIP leader if anyone wants the job. Yes, I know…again!!!
Apparently he’s going to spend more time on winning the world cup and leading a manned mission to Mars in his spare time while living in some of the houses he owns but never had time to visit.
The SNP is licking its wounds having lost some truly good people. Alex Salmond, Angus Robertson are the two most high profile casualties, but there are many others who have served us well who now find themselves seatless.
It’s comforting to know that they still have more than half the seats in the London parliament. That is to say, more than the Liberals, Tories and Labour put together. And supporters need to remind themselves that there was no way ever, that they could replicate the 2015 result.
And no matter that Dugdale, Davidson and Wee Willie Rennie together with the Press and the BBC made this election about the SNP record in government in Scotland, it was not. And the SNP remains the government in our country, albeit not the one that holds the purse strings. However, no one could call it a good night for the SNP and they will need to look very carefully at how they go forward.
Jeremy Corbyn surprised everyone on the campaign trail. He drew massive crowds and seems to be the person who persuaded vast numbers of young people to go out and vote (although I heard Munguin trying to take the credit for that this morning).
In a strange election, with no clear-cut result, Corbyn is the undoubted “winner”. Dugdale may try to take some credit in Scotland, but we know that she opposed her leader every step of the way and her lieutenant, Murray, actively put him down at every opportunity.
It will be interesting to see how the right wing of the Labour party deals with a strong left-of-centre leader with electoral gains on his side. Will Dugdale and her crew take note of Corbyn and cease their endless attempts to undermine him, or will they continue with their “destroy” mission?
The LibDems have in the not too distant past both refused to rule out, and ruled out working with the Tories, so probably one of these is true, if anyone cares very much.
As for the Tories. Well, they are happy with themselves in Scotland, of course. They took some long-standing SNP seats in the North East and Mundel increased his majority, presumably because he’s done such a great job of standing up for Scots and getting us the very best possible deal from his London bosses. Or not.
Theresa May is clinging on for grim life having made a massive (but doubtless strong and stable) decision to sacrifice her slim majority to look even more strong and stable in front of all those Presidents, Chancellors and Prime Ministers, who must be chuckling a bit at how stupid she looks.
She “shook the magic money tree” that Tories can always find when they want to but the people “were clear” and said: “enough is enough”.
She has been humiliated. And more, her precious ‘united’ kingdom has been humiliated, because the EU has had to say that it is prepared to stall the beginning of the Brexit talks, scheduled to start in less than a fortnight, until Britain sorts itself out. (Note to Europe: Now is your opportunity to start reading War and Peace,like you’ve always promised yourselves.)
Will there be a coalition with the right-wing Protestant party of Northern Ireland and what price would the religious zealots demand? How will EVEL affect the arithmetic? Disgraced DUP leader Arlene Foster, whose actions caused the breakdown of the administration in Belfast, has said that she is waiting for a call.
The fact that May has said that she will not stand down means very little. It is almost certain that some of the Tories will wish to depose her. Boris Johnson was rumoured last night to be putting out feelers. She may be gone within days. (“We fight on and we fight to win”)
Unstable government at a time of crisis… and withdrawal from the EU is a time of crisis as anyone who has read anything about it knows… is unlikely to survive for a long time. So there may have to be another election within a year.
Lots of thoughts about yesterday and last night are still running around in my head and I don’t want to make this post into a second volume of War and Peace, so I’ll finish up with the thought that won’t leave me:
What an incredibly stupid, vain and incompetent woman Theresa May is, and I think I’ve realised that when she talks about being “Strong and Stable”, what she really means is “Stubborn and Awkward”.
The exit poll shows the Tories to be at 314 seats, 12 short of a majority, rather than with 12 of a majority.
So, if it is anywhere like accurate, Mayhem’s plan, like so much of the rest of her plans, has fallen on its butt.
Personally, I hope that the SNP figure is better than 34. It’s still over half the seats (30 would be a winner) but it would be a disappointing vote and mean that we would lose some really first rate MPs.
So, the night begins.
Feel free to add any comments here. I probably won’t respond to them all… (we all need to get sleep at some point) so we’ll just let it be an open forum for any points anyone wants to make.
Please use your vote today. How you use it is up to you, although of course if you are in Scotland I’m sure you know what Munguin would advise you to do.
During the Blair and Brown years it was reasonable to say, nothing changes, voting doesn’t make any difference. They are all the same. It was untrue but totally understandable. Blair and Thatcher were only distinguishable by the lack of handbag in Blair’s wardrobe.
But today there is a choice. There’s a choice for the UK… it’s Corbyn or May. And they ARE different. And there is a choice for Scotland too. The SNP has made a difference in Westminster. OK, they can be, and often are, outvoted by the English, en masse. But you can count on 56 votes for decency. Can you imagine if there were Scottish MPs (apart from Muddle, who barely counts because he says what is programmed into him by whoever his boss is at the time) who were voting for rape clauses, and taking money away from disabled people, voting against pensioners’ rights and, as Ruth so clearly put it in her tweet of today:
Massive thanks to all @ScotTories candidates, activists & helpers for such a happy, energetic & disciplined campaign. Let’s smash tomorrow.x
(bold type is mine)
So younger voters, it’s up to you.
If you are happy for your parents and grandparents to decide on how life is gonna be for the next 5 years of your life, and a great deal longer, given the momentous decisions that will be taken… and the ramifications of the great repeal bill… then don’t bother about this voting malarky today.
Leave it to your mum and dad, grandad and Auntie Gloria. They usually know best about most things, don’t they? Remember that sweater they bought you for Christmas?
Firstly, I’d like to say that once again today we’re thinking about the victims of terrorists. This time it was in Notre Dame de Paris on the Ile de la Cité, one of my favourite places to sit and watch the world go by.
Secondly, I’d like to mention that Robert Salmond, Alex’s dad, died today at 95 years old. So we’re thinking of Alex and his family too. Sad time, but it’s worth reading what Alex says his dad would tell him now.
As the election campaign draws to a close, we find ourselves in a very different situation from that which we expected when it kicked off.
After telling us over and over that she would not call an election, Mrs Strong and Stable wobbled and called one. She was hoping, I’ve no doubt, to establish herself in her role (not with the EU, who are happy to negotiate with her based on the referendum result), but as prime minister and leader within her own party, which is split over Brexit among other things. Mr Corbyn was leader of a split party and miles behind her in the polls. What could possibly go wrong?
Well, try EVERYTHING!
It seems that being appointed by the Tory party, the least offensive of a really bad bunch, meant very little scrutiny for May, and the BBC and the Press, with the cooperation of members of the Labour Parliamentary Party, were able to talk Mr Corbyn down.
But the scrutiny of a general election campaign, particularly one which was unnecessary, has put both the potential prime ministers under the spotlight.
In the case of Corbyn, it has given him an opportunity to display that he can be calm and measured, even under fire… and that he never loses the plot (OK, except one time on the radio where he forgot one figure). And most of his opponents in his own party have at least kept quiet over the campaign. (Well, with some exceptions.) Corbyn has shone as a potential statesman.
On the other hand, Mrs May, who has been standing on a platform of “strong and stable”, has made a mess of every appearance she has made; every interview she has done, and frankly, she’s become a laughing stock. As people have said, if she can’t face Corbyn in a tv debate, how will she be able to deal with the EU representatives?
I tend to think that people should be careful picking catch phrases like “strong and stable”. And before they chose them, they should be absolutely sure that they haven’t been used before. In this case, “strong as stable” was previously used by Adolf Hitler. It would only have taken a few clicks on Google to find that out.
Now she’s come up with “Enough is Enough”. A reaction to the terror attacks that have plagued London and Manchester. Surely that would ahve applied after the first attack… Did she not think that THAT was enough? And again, it’s a massive pity (for her) that she didn’t check back to see if the phrase had been used before!
Whatever the result it looks very unlikely to be one anywhere near the massive majority that she was hoping for, well counting on, when she launched this campaign. Indeed some polls suggest she will have a smaller majority that she has now, Some say even no majority at all. Her rivals are starting to count their support!
But as all politicians say, the only poll that counts is the one on Thursday. And on Friday morning, and not before, we will know.
Finally, the 2015 (correction thanks to Hugh) result was amazing for the SNP. 56 out of 59 is an extraordinary achievement. It was never going to be able to be repeated. The Tories have been bragging that they may take 18 seats; Labour think that they might get some, as do the Liberal Democrats. SNP supporters should expect to lose some seats and should take it on the chin. When the press gleefully announce that the SNP and independence are dead in the water we’ll know perfectly well that they are not.
Scotland above all needs a strong voice in London. Brexit is about England (and Wales). They wanted it (very narrowly). We did not. But because of their population size, they will get what they want and we can go hang. We are not being listened to by London. None of the solutions proposed by teh Scottish government will be aired in the talks. No Scottish voice in negotiations. Only England’s. Scotland’s concerns NEED to be heard. We have friends in Europe, but when the negotiations start they won’t be allowed to hear what we say. We need someone like Angus to make sure that we are heard, loud and clear.
In my opinion, Angus Robertson has been a superb leader in London and an excellent opponent to Mrs May, and Pete Wishart has been a staunch member for his constituency and put up a brilliant fight against the anti-democratic and expensive House of Lords. Let’s hope that they manage to keep their marginal seats. Scotland, and indeed Britain, is the better for them being there.
Someone appears to hate foreigners so much that they have paid for this massive effigy of Theresa May standing on the white cliffs of Dover sticking her fingers up at anyone who arrives on a Ferry.
This will no doubt encourage European leaders to give consideration to the very best possible deal for Britain in the talks that start in a fortnight’s time. I mean who could refuse anything to such nice polite, open minded, cultured people?
According to Kent On Line, the figure has now been removed, but no one seems to know who put it up in the first place. Whoever it was had a bit of spare cash to throw around though, so best not look for the culprit amongst the lower orders. This wouldn’t have come cheap.
Can you imagine the fuss the BBC and the right wing press would have made if a figure of Nicola Sturgeon draped in a Saltire had been erected on our borders making the two fingers sign to the people wishing to visit our country?