Still, his lies worked in 2014, eh?

We must have forgotten to read the small print

Thanks to Brenda and BLP.

51 thoughts on “Still, his lies worked in 2014, eh?”

  1. Gordon Brown isn’t to blame if people are stupid enough to believe his lies, a bit like Sturgeonites believing Sturgeon working towards Independence, I mean how F*cking stupid can they be.

    I got some advice for these Sturgeonites, look before you cross and listen before you judge and think before you act.

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      1. IPSOS Poll

        General Election voting intention: majority say they intend to vote for a pro-independence party, either the SNP (51%) or Greens (3%). Labour in 2nd place on 25%, with the Conservatives in 3rd on 13%, much lower than the 25% they achieved at the 2019 General Election (2/9)

        They give the +/- factor as 4% on the figures.

        Must be doing something right.

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      3. Scots’ satisfaction with many of their political leaders has fallen since May.
        Nicola Sturgeon remains the leader with the highest satisfaction rating, with 52% saying they are satisfied with her performance as First Minister. However, net satisfaction with her performance (the proportion satisfied minus the proportion dissatisfied) has fallen slightly – from +12 in May 2022 to +9.

        Anas Sarwar’s ratings have fallen – 40% are satisfied with his performance as Scottish Labour leader, while 37% are dissatisfied and 23% don’t know enough to rate him. While still on balance positive, his net satisfaction has fallen from +19 in May to +3 now.

        Dissatisfaction with Keir Starmer has increased – 37% are satisfied with his performance as leader of the UK Labour Party, while 50% are dissatisfied. His net satisfaction has fallen from -2 in May to -13 now.

        Rishi Sunak receives a negative net satisfaction rating from Scots, of -21, with 32% satisfied and 53% dissatisfied with his performance as Prime Minister.
        Although his overall rating is low, Sunak nonetheless appears to fare comparatively better among the Scottish public than Boris Johnson, who received a -71 net satisfaction rating in Ipsos’ May poll. Rishi Sunak’s rating is also less negative than Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross’s, whose net satisfaction rating is -38.

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      4. The Scottish National Party remains more trusted by the Scottish public than either the Scottish Conservative Party or the Scottish Labour Party to deal effectively with a range of issues facing Scotland.

        On most issues, however, fewer than half of the public say they trust the SNP a great deal or quite a lot. Public trust in the SNP to manage the NHS has fallen by 18 percentage points since April 2021. Trust in the party to stand up for Scotland’s interests, manage Scotland’s economy, tackle inequality and manage education and schools in Scotland has also fallen – by 10, 10, 9 and 8 percentage points respectively.

        This fall in public trust is not unique to the SNP. Scottish Labour and the Scottish Conservatives are also less trusted now across a range of issues than they were in April 2021.

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        1. Maybe the population are now seeing that the westmonster rulers are just telling us nothing and ignoring concerns.

          Listen to PMQs, he makes no attempt at actually answering any question, even from his own benches.
          Just a waste of everybody’s time.

          The baroness moan question from stamerer was, ‘How much of the £30million will be recovered?’.
          Answer was he was ‘Absolutely Shocked’,aye shocked that the media didn’t suppress as usual.

          At least tomorrow Ms Sturgeon will attempt to answer the questions after some deflection, they’re politicians playing a game.

          Same at Stormont with the unionists failing to elect speakers.
          Still collecting the cash.

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          1. They should stop PMQs.

            I don’t remember any of them actually answering a question, unless it was a very obvious plotted one… Would the Prime Minister agree with me that Britain is leading the world in blah blah blah… ?

            It all seems rather pointless to me.

            I suppose the subsidised bars and restaurants do a good trade on a Wednesday though…

            Should the Irish Secretary not be doing something about getting Stormont back to work, or is he/she as angry as the DUP that the DUP didn’t win?

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      1. What very strange polls.
        The margin of error at +/- 4 first caught my eye. Its understandable given the numbers polled ( ie 928 and 882).
        I wonder why they didn’t go for the more usual 1000+.
        I also see that they describe “the base” as people (16+) who are 9/10 likely to vote in a scottish independence referendum.
        This is a fictitious and fanciful base. There isn’t going to be a scottish independence referendum. If there is to be a de facto then those entitled to vote will be quite different.

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        1. I suppose that the idea was to show the English/British government what the sentiment was.

          You can only act against the will of the people for so long. Maybe someone will have the sense to u-turn on the referendum.

          I see it’s rumoured that Starmer will U-turn again on the EU membership.

          You really can’t trust any of them on anything.

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    3. Sturgeon will never ever deliver a referendum or independence and the people who left liebour party and joined the NuSNP is the only reason people like me who only ever voted and supported as a loyal member for over 33yrs have all but left After 8yrs of a useless leader and glakit supporters beggers believe. Keep post your childish pics I hope it give you comfort knowing your supporting keeping Scotland in this Union. I bet you still believe your still going to have a referendum next year, pathetic.

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      1. So, if Nicola isn;t going to do iit, tell me who will.

        By the way, we try to keep this a pleasant place. By all means disagree with me, but if you can’t keep a civil tongue in your head, don’t come back here.

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        1. If it had been 4 years ago, then giving Sturgeon the benefit of doubt might have seemed reasonable. Giving it to her now is effectively, maintaining an obstacle to independence. She is inarticulate and slow-witted but luckily for her, she is up against unionist politicians that are even worse than she is. The answer to your question is: anyone that desires independence.

          I might not agree with you on Sturgeon but I enjoy your blog and I appreciate the effort that you put into it.

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          1. Thanks, Ian.

            I don’t think Nicola’s anywhere like perfect, and I don’t agree with some of the SNP policies (although I wouldn’t agree that she was slow witted or inarticulate). I just think we need solidarity. And I know that dissention cheers the spirits of the unionist supporters.

            There are some great brains in the SNP, but I’m not sure that they would want any kind of leadership roles or that they would be good in them. John Swinney is an example of a clever (and very nice) man, who lacks the spark for leadership.

            But I’d be very happy to see Philippa or Joanne as leader.

            We don’t all have to agree here, and I know we don’t. My problem with “100% Yes” the other day was that he took to petty insults at me, which I could do without.

            Compliments though: 🙂 🙂 altogether another thing!

            I’m trying to think of someone else in the independence movement that comes over as having the leadership qualities required.

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    3. I was planning to go and see them playing Kelty the other weekend; was talking to a bus driver who told me that they were all on diversions because of roadworks on the Maryhill Road. I ended up not going because I don’t know the area.
      And I saw a Kingsley toy cable-tied onto the front of a Land-Rover yesterday.

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  3. OT,

    First time this winter I’ve seen the grid demand into the Amber warning at 46GW.
    Coal and cat litter being burnt,OC Gas Turbines in use and the torygraph says that Nicola’s climate policy is not going to achive it’s goals by 2030.

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        1. On the same day that the Tories are complaining that the Scottish government’s Green targets won’t be met.

          Glasgow of course, was an opportunity for BloJo to look like a statesman. Unfortunately he made a mess of it and ended up looking like the sleeping ugly.

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          1. Ah but the coal will be used to make steel and not generate electricity.
            Wonder where that will be, Wales?

            Maybe we should ask the under secretary
            of state for exports, one wee andy bowie,, failed officer RN.
            failed

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            1. The Chinese owner of Scunthorpe blast furnace have decided to close down unless the shapps gives them a handout to make steelmaking profitable.

              The Indian owner of British Steels says , we need help as well.

              Will they get a hand up, probably, as we need somewhere to use some of the new coal mine’s output.
              Reports say that 80% of the output will be sent to Europe.

              Just when you thought they knew what they were doing, aye right.

              The coal will have to be turned into coke to make iron before being turned into steel.

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              1. Well, Dave. They would privatise stuff… and when you do that, buyers can sell to the highest bidder.

                Not that I’m in favour of nationalising steel, I hasten to add. Only in favour of those things which are absolutely essential being in government hands. (Water, Electricity, Gas, Trains and Buses).

                So, it’s not only the trades unions that are “holding the Tories to ransom”; it the business owners too.

                Pity there are any competent ministers in Westminster.

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                1. I’m in favour of nationalising it – so that we can re-process all the scrap metal that’s kicking around, and then produce bar, rod and sheet that are becoming lower on “food miles” with each time that this happens. See also aluminium. We currently send it all abroad, I think.

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                  2. Jeez, Derek! Aluminium too?

                    The capitalist economies we live in (or under) are inherently wasteful: the profit motive does not necessarily allocate resources sanely. That’s where regulation comes in, I suppose.

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                    1. Aluminium too? Of course!

                      Scrap is sent abroad for processing, and then we buy the metal produced. Why can’t we seize the means of production…?

                      As an aside, I had a bit of a singalong to the tune of “O Tannenbaum” which was playing in the gardens whilst I was waiting for a bus.

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            2. LOL I saw him being questioned about Brexit. He seemed to think it was a success… and that the Australia deal was a great win for Britain.

              No wonder he’s looking around for an English seat.

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  5. ***RANT ALERT***

    From those polling figures, we can say with some certainty that we’ve reached a tipping point in support for independence. The uptick in support has to be down to the Supreme Court judgment, with its effects further crystallized by the reactions to it of the Westminster regime, and of Westminster politicians generally.

    It’s not just the judgment that rankles, it’s the unbecoming triumphalism, the obnoxious smears, the contempt, the ignorance, and the hypocrisy that sticks in the craw.

    The judgment reaffirmed what many of us have known from the outset: the Scotland Act isn’t worth the paper it was written on, and Westminster’s word is worth less, as it has been shown to be worthless. Perfidious Albion indeed, in all its knickerless glory.

    Our politicians at Westminster should now disrupt and delay proceedings to the maximum extent. I would particularly like to see them get up on their hind legs and shout “Liar!” at appropriate moments during PMQs, and when others of the regime’s front benchers are lying through their teeth.

    Being thrown out by the Speaker for doing so must be considered not a hazard but an opportunity: not only does it use up the parliament’s time, it generates publicity. The Usual Suspects will try to dismiss it as grandstanding, but the more they do, the surer we can be that They are feeling the pricks.

    On a different tack, if Sunak can once be forced to admit that there is no democratic way for Scotland to become independent again, then our MPs should immediately walk out, and not return.

    Also, is it not the case that the infinite sovereignty of the Westminster parliament and monarch does not have effect in Scotland? I believe there’s a legal judgment to that effect which has never been challenged.

    If so, our Government should disregard the offending provisions of the Scotland Act, remind Westminster that in Scotland sovereignty resides with the Scottish people, we Scots have made our democratically expressed wishes clear, and have withdrawn our consent to be bound by the provisions of an Act that was passed without respect for our wishes and over our objections.

    I’m not a constitutional lawyer, so my argument is likely full of holes, but I put it out there in the hope that someone in a position to do something with it will draw inspiration from it.

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    1. I’d be interested in that too.

      There seem so many contradictory aspects of the Scottish situation.

      Although, clearly, once the supreme court has ruled, it surely must be accepted.

      But I’d like some learned (no offense intended, Ed, I mean “learned in the legal sense) opinion on that.

      Unfortunately the British seem to love to sneer visibly and loudly when they think they have won something. It doesn’t seem to occur to them how badly this goes down.

      Another brilliant example was how some of the MEPs, particularly UKIP, but possibly some Tories too, stood and faced the back of the hall when Britain left the EU, and while the EU Anthem played.

      Seemingly unaware of the fact that there were still negotiations to conclude with people that they had just insulted like primary school kids.

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    2. “I put it out there in the hope that someone in a position to do something with it will draw inspiration from it.”

      Salvo and Liberation have already looked into other possibilities. Will it work? Like you I’m not a lawyer but I do know what won’t work – sitting back doing nothing whilst moaning about the SC decision and playing nice at Westminster. Domestic law says no, we go to international law. After all the Treaty of Union is an international trade agreement.

      https://salvo.scot/

      https://liberation.scot/

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      1. Thanks, PP!

        It’s always been the case that the UK, as presently constituted, can withstand neither close inspection or logical analysis. It is a dysfunctional fudge and cludge – and its founding documents have been honoured more in the breach than in the observance.

        The treatment of the constituent parts and peoples of the UK by the largest polity among them reminds me rather of the treatment of the First Peoples by the USA and its colonial predecessors. There again, treaties were signed, and immediately disregarded by the mightier party.

        No wonder BoJo talked so cavalierly about violating the Northern Ireland Protocol – Perfidious Albion has form. BoJo was just saying the quiet part out loud, and he could have got away with violating the Protocol in fact, for some time at least, if he’d only kept quiet about it: the Europeans would have taken longer – possibly a lot longer – to catch up with the de jure side of things, and take the requisite legal and diplomatic / political action.

        Oh well, if your international standing and reputation are already in the toilet, it probably doesn’t matter too much whether you use a short flush or a long flush for it to disappear entirely.

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      2. Hm. Occurs to me that the problem with having recourse to international law – The Hague – is a non-starter because – wait for it – Scotland is not an independent State, and therefore has no standing before the International Court of Justice.

        The ICJ building is a weird sort of place, architecturally, IMHO. It’s sort of St Pancras station coupled with Ludwig of Bavaria, and a bit of old cathedral thrown in. https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2018/08/28/9d4ed4e4-35d4-4d83-922e-a619172e354d/international-court-of-justice-ap-18239304565157.jpg

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        1. We need to try our luck where we can Ed. Sometimes it’s a Hail Mary pass as the Americans say; but no stone unturned PP says. Every avenue explored. And yes the SNP need to start getting disruptive at Westminster. A quick “I spy strangers” closes the place down for HOURS. Be a thorn in their sides OR do a Sinn Fein and say – no playing. We’ll represent our constituents but we’re no playing. Of course that will have personal and party financial implications but we don’t vote for them to get rich. We vote for them to get us OUT!

          There endth my radical thoughts for today.

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          1. I’ve thought about the Sinn Fein move.

            I reckon that if you are paid to do a job, you should do it. For example I agree that the people in the Assembly in the North of Ireland should lose some of their salaries given that they won’t turn up for the assembly part of the job.

            Could SNP and Alba members of parliament afford to do that?

            The serve no real purpose in the chamber. They are sneered at; the presiding officer is unnecessarily rude and sharp with them. (Look at the way he treated the Alba members when they annoyed him, or the SNP member the other day… compared with the way he treated Gove yesterday for his disrespectful behaviour to the Chair.

            Their votes mean nothing.

            Tories vote one way… Labour votes the other, even with our votes, the T0ories always win.

            Neither Labour nor the Tories ever vote with the SNP.

            Not going to London would save the country money and the MPs could still do their constituency work and contact officials on behalf of their constituents.

            I think I’m probably in favour, but not certain.

            I think if they do, they should give part of their salaries to local charities (as I think they already do with their recent pay rises and as the Scottish Cabinet does with all the rises they have had since 2007).

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    3. Exactky, if the Scottish people are sovereign, the Westminster Parliament has no jusisdiction over us, neither has Charlie 3, as he only rules us with our consent.
      If he does anything against the welfare of the people of Scotland, such as consenting to a Westminster law that takes away any of our rights, we can say ‘on your bike!’

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  6. Rants are all the rage these days. I mean, even that crazy old fellow Gordon Brown has been at it.

    If you fancy a coherent opinion from somebody who is a proper expert* on constitutional law have a gander at this:

    https://www.centreonconstitutionalchange.ac.uk/news-and-opinion/scottish-independence-and-uk-governments-unreasonable-refusal-negotiate

    * Professor Douglas-Scott joined Queen Mary in September 2015 as Anniversary Chair in Law. Previously she was Professor of European and Human Rights law at the University of Oxford, and before that Professor of Law at King’s College London. She retains a link with Oxford as honorary research fellow at Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford.

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