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1. Oh, is it that time already? Time to get up!
2. Besties.
3. On a clear day, you can see forever more…
4. Who’s just been to the barbers then?
5. Farmer growing cobwebs instead of Brussels Sprouts?
6. Aren’t I cute?
7. Sometimes we all need a hug.
9. Spiney-tailed Skink, at your service, Mr Munguin.
10. Guess where.
11. Hmmmm. I think I may have to take up farming instead of fishing what with all this climate change thingummy. Thank heavens I don’t live in England. They have to destroy most of what they grow. Munguin will always find labour to pick my stuff…eh, Tristan?
12. Did someone ask if we could eat all the crops in the fields? I’m up for that!
13. We had some towering sunflowers this year.
14. I’m going to be an ostrich when I grown up!
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15. Yeah dude, course you are!
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16. !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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18. Algiers.
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19. Ummm…purrrrrr.
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20. I’m not eating it… I’m using it to clean my teeth. Duh. If you happen to have any bananas or other fruit, don’t be too shy to pop round with them. Munguin and Woollie are coming to tea tonight.

With thanks to Quokka and Dave.

94 thoughts on “SOPPY SUNDAY”

    1. Well, I never. A bit of KansaS in Scotland.

      I have always associated them with Bulgaria where I saw field after field of them moving with the sun,

      They have a lot in France too where they are called Tournesol for obvious reasons.

      I loved the red ones in that Wiki article.

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      1. Tris……It looks like the Sunflower did very well for itself in Europe, after those first seeds were brought from the Americas in the 16th century. Although now most identified in the USA with the state of Kansas, Wiki says that the earliest evidence of cultivation has been found in the Southeast. However, the sunflower may actually have been cultivated in Mexico even earlier than very early examples found in Tennessee.


          1. WOW……Kansas could take a sunflower lesson from Bulgaria and France. Maybe the wetter climates of Europe are more favorable for sunflowers than the arid Great Plains of the USA. Maybe sunflower seed cultivation is also a bigger business in Europe. In Kansas, I’ve mostly seen wild ones growing here and there by the side of the road.

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            1. PS…..I should have mentioned that Kansas might better be named the “Wheat State.” Sometimes Kansas (the nation’s largest producer of wheat) is called the breadbasket of the world, with wheat fields that stretch to the horizon (but are not nearly so colorful as sunflowers.) 🙂

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    2. Another member of the sunflower family native to North America is Helianthus tuberosus or Jerusalem Artichoke. They were also cultivated by native Americans as a food source only it’s the tubers that are used. They are famous for the epic flatulence they cause and I’ve heard them referred to as fartichokes by chefs.

      I have a tall creeping hardy perennial helianthus in my garden that’s probably a cultivar and it’s one of the few things still flowering at this time of year. It’s 5-6 feet tall, shallow rooted and easily pulled up where it’s not wanted, doesn’t need staking and I would highly recommend it for the back of a border. It’s perfect for an autumn Scottish garden because it’s one of the few things that isn’t jaded and bedraggled come October.

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      1. Seems that there are around 70 types.

        I once grew Jerusalem Artichokes with great success, I might add. But I didn’t actually do anything with the tubers because I had no idea what to do with them.

        They were though, beautiful plants and formed a great border between one part of the garden and another.

        From what you say, I’m quite glad I didn’t eat them.

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      2. Greig……Interesting! I recently watched a television documentary about the Lewis and Clark expedition (which explored the American interior in 1804-1806.) It described a time when they were out of food, and encountered a Native American tribe which served them a big meal of boiled roots and tubers. They got sick and reported the major flatulence they experienced in the journals of the expedition.

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  1. Well done Danny, you pipped me to first post. But only just.

    I think that no. 10 is somewhere in Switzerland, but I don’t recognize it.

    Uri? Schwyz? Chur?

    Terry will know, I’m sure.

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    1. DonDon…..Achieving the first Munguin’s post is a considerable challenge. Several times, I’ve found no comments posted, and then while composing what I imagine will the first, one or more earlier messages get posted before I’m ready to post my own. It doesn’t help that I’m brevity-challenged and compose my essays slowly. 😉

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    1. I’ve recently spotted a word used in MNR with which I’m unfamiliar. I’ve never seen or heard the word “sewerage” used in the United States. At least in any part of the country that I’m familiar with. In America we have “sewage” which flows through “sewers” which are part of a “sewage (or sewer) system,” but no “sewerage” anywhere that I’m familiar with.

      So I’m thinking that sewage in American English is perhaps simply equivalent to sewerage in British English. But maybe it’s more subtle than that since Wiki says: “Sewerage (or sewage system) is the infrastructure that conveys sewage….using sewers.” This would seem to imply that British “sewage” is the same as American “sewage,” but that INFRASTRUCTURE called “sewerage” CONVEYS “sewage.”

      So I’m confused. Does anyone actually know the difference between “sewerage” and “sewage,” and what’s with this “infrastructure” gibberish that Wikipedia is jabbering about? Note that Wiki sternly warns that Sewerage is “Not to be confused with Sewage”, and then proceeds to sow all sorts of confusion as far as I’m concerned. 😉


        1. PP……Interesting! That does seem to be what Wiki says. But then I didn’t know how to interpret MNR references to “untreated sewerage.” How can “infrastructure” be “untreated?”

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          1. PS….PP: I suppose this could involve what we refer to in America as storm sewers and sanitary sewers. I know that some old urban systems in America don’t adequately separate the two sewer systems when there is overflow during periods of heavy rainfall. At such times, there can be sanitary sewage flowing in the untreated storm drain systems.

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          2. “I didn’t know how to interpret MNR references to “untreated sewerage.”

            Well Danny I wouldn’t use that term but if others do well they can explain 🙂

            TBF I don’t really use the word sewerage much preferring sewer systems or indeed just sewers. But English is a language with many variations, not all of which make sense… (to me anyway!).

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            1. PandaPaws……Thanks for the feedback. I just thought maybe I’d spotted an interesting new British English word, since I’d never encountered the word “sewerage” in the States. Like you, I’ve always just used the term “sewers” or “sewer systems,” etc, to refer to infrastructure.

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      1. What is difference between sewage and sewerage?

        ~~Sewage is the waste matter carried off by sewer drains and pipes. Sewerage refers to the physical facilities (e.g., pipes, lift stations, and treatment and disposal facilities) through which sewage flows.

        I take from that that I have largely been using “sewerage” when I should have been using “sewage”.

        Thanks for pointing that out!

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          1. I suppose it’s not a word you see a lot.

            When I used it recently I was aware that on the rare occasions I’d heard it, it sounded like “sewage”… but I assumed that was a mispronunciation, given that it was stuff carried in sewers.

            When I typed, probably for the first time in my life, “sewerage” and the spellchecker didn’t throw it out, I assumed it was right.

            I’m safe though, because even Munguin didn’t know the difference. Phew…

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            1. LOL……Some time back, I was getting some strange feedback from my Email spellchecker. I discovered that it can be set to “British” or “American,” and had somehow gotten switched to British English.

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                1. Some years ago, a friend gave me a gift of the companion book to Lord Clark’s “Civilisation” series. Somehow it didn’t look quite right, but then I spotted the “s” instead of a “z” in the title. It looked wrong to me on the book cover, but somehow I didn’t notice it when I’d watched the video.
                  Sometimes the BBC switches spellings in things that play in the states, but I don’t remember how earlier reruns of that series was titled. It first played on the BBC in 1969, but the first showing I saw here was probably about 2005.


                    1. Tris……Sounds reasonable, but I’m not at all sure that Lord Clark would have approved. 😉

                      I see that the American standard Merriam-Webster defines “civilization” spelled with a “z”, with no alternate spelling suggested. However, Webster has a separate entry for the word “civilisation” which states: “chiefly British spellings of CIVILIZATION , CIVILIZE”

                      Collins also spells it “civilization”, but says:
                      REGIONAL NOTE:
                      in BRIT, also use civilisation

                      I can live with an “s” in civilisation, and I’ve gotten used to that superfluous “u” in the spelling of color and labor and the like, but “defence” is a stopper for me when I read it. That “c” somehow always looks to me like a simple misspelling of “defense.” Maybe it’s because the cabinet level Department of Defense (DoD) and Secretary of Defense show up so often in the media.

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                      I checked up Oxford and it seems to prefer Z.

                      The superfluous “u”s are irritating… as are the unnecessary letters in thrOuGH or thoUGH, NiGHt, siGHt where the normal practice of an e at the end would hae been sufficient.

                      There’s an interesting one…

                      Practice, practise.

                      In English practice is a noun and Practise, a verb

                      Is that so in American too?

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                    3. Tris…….Interesting examples! Posting to MNR, I guess I’m about 50-50 in American vs British names, spellings, and usage, based on what I assume would or would not be understood by Scots/British audiences. Frequently used alternate names are probably widely understood these days. I assume that a common word like vacation is understood to mean holiday, and an elevator is a lift of course. I can’t bring myself to call a flashlight a torch though, and “telly” just seems too cutesy a nickname for television. Maybe the good solid American “TV” is understood in the UK these days….certainly in context. Actually it’s the British and Scottish slang terms……especially the risque ones……..that send me to Google to sort out. Much Scots vocabulary is a mystery of course, but can be surprisingly easy to understand in context. “Bairn” and “wean” were great mysteries when I first encountered them.


                      A noun-verb distinction between practice and practise is unknown in the USA as far as I know. The American word is “practice” for all uses.

                      I encountered an interesting comment on here about meter vs metre. Mostly, Americans assume that “re” endings to words like metre and theatre are simply British-English spellings of words which are spelled with “er” endings in American-English. However, it seems that in Britain, metre is a unit of measure, whereas a meter is a measuring device…..such as a water meter or a gas meter. Wiki says that “metre” is used for the unit of measure in almost all English speaking countries EXCEPT the United States which uses “meter.”


                      So in America, it’s usually “er”endings for everything. (You do see occasional “re” endings though……maybe the name of an old “theatre” for example.)

                      That brings to mind a word I’d never ever seen before reading it in Munguin. The word is “whinge” or “whinging.” I assumed it was just a British-English spelling for American-English “whine” or “whining,” since I knew of no word like “whinge” in American usage. But NO! The British seem to insist that whinge and whine are two different words, with whinge referring to a complaining ATTITUDE, and whine describing a specific SOUND that is made. (At least that’s the way I understand it.) Merriam-Webster recognizes the word “whinge,” but just treats it as a synonym for “whine.” However, Webster does provides this interesting comment:

                      “Whinge isn’t just a spelling variant of “whine.” “Whinge” and “whine” are actually entirely different words with separate histories. “Whine” traces to an Old English verb, “hwinan,” which means “to make a humming or whirring sound.” When “hwinan” became “whinen” in Middle English, it meant “to wail distressfully”; “whine” didn’t acquire its “complain” sense until the 16th century. “Whinge,” on the other hand, comes from a different Old English verb, “hwinsian,” which means “to wail or moan discontentedly.” “Whinge” retains that original sense today, though nowadays it puts less emphasis on the sound of the complaining and more on the discontentment behind the complaint.”


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                    4. That was interesting, Danny.

                      Whinging is entirely separate here.

                      There is a literal meaning to whine… which is as described, humming sound,usually high pitched… but people use whine in the same way as whinge… My father whined on about me not doing chores around the house… where you could easily say he whinged about it.

                      We have tended to use the French spellings for metre, litre, etc… but of course, now that we are global Britain, if not intergalactic Britain, we will probably start to use Poles and Rods and Furlongs and other such measures and leave the “re” continentals to their weird ways.

                      Has ha ha … imagine a system built on tens! Whatever next!

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                    5. LOL Tris……Even Americans understood that in matters as important as money, a decimal system made lots more sense. Weights and measures though…..not so much. 😉 It’s really hard to imagine how the old mechanical British accounting machines managed non-decimal pounds, shillings, and pence.

                      I found a couple of articles. The first one discusses in general terms how American English departed from British English. It points out that American usage may be older, in that it sometimes reflects old colonial English, which, after the revolution, got cut off from modern changes that were occurring in England. Then there’s the fact that Noah Webster (who compiled in early America what to this day has become the American standard dictionary), was more than a lexicographer. He was also an educator and spelling reformer. He quite deliberately made changes that he felt simplified the spelling and caused it to make more sense from a pronunciation viewpoint. I think he’s largely responsible for dumping the “u” from the “…our” spellings.


                      And an interesting and humorous discussion about meter/metre and liter/litre.
                      Quote: “This seems like it should tie up the matter (mattre?) quite neatly, but no.”


                      The last sentence of the article is apparently a joke, but so far, I really don’t get it. Maybe I read the article too quickly and missed something. 🙂

                      Quote: “Now can somebody explain to the giggling Brit over there why their American friend hasn’t done anything shameful by “showing their best pants to the priest”?”

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                    6. Interesting articles, Danny.

                      I think I get the last line.

                      In the US “pants” are trousers. And if you go to church probably you wear your best pants.

                      In Britain pants are underwear.

                      I’m saying nothing more!

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                    7. Tris……Thanks! That explains it! I didn’t realize that “pants” had a specific underwear connotation in British English. As you said, in America, the standard meaning of pants would be “trousers,” unless one says “underpants,” which would normally mean men’s underwear. (But “undershorts” is probably more commonly used.) Women’s underpants on the other hand would normally be called “panties”, whereas (I think) in Britain, the word “knickers” would be used. I remember being a bit confused about the meaning of “knickers” when (many years ago) I first started seeing British English posted on the internet. 😉

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                    8. Yes, Danny. Knickers or panties for women. Men-underpants, pants or boxers or briefs.

                      Pants is sometimes used for trousers, but, I don;t think, very often…

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          2. So, someone reached out to me about “sewerage” because they knew I was impacted by it. (My voice went up at the end of the sentence.)

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                1. @ Freaky……..LOL……Excellent!
                  No, the American preference for “z”s doesn’t extend to zewage…..or even anzwer 😉
                  I think I read that Noah Webster, the American colonial and revolutionary-era lexicographer and spelling reformer, was apparently big on changing spellings to better match pronunciation. That was when z-sounding “s”s got changed to “z”s in American spelling.
                  Of course that doesn’t really explain why Americans sometimes prefer “s” to “c” in words like “defense”……..which the British insist on spelling “defence.”
                  So it’s hopeless to make sense of……… 🙂

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  2. Well in one way the whale video was amazing but if it had been me I’d have been terrified. I man you know whales a BIG but it’s not until you see them next to a human that you/me can comprehend the scale of them.

    Nice to see a black panther and bairn. Loved the punk penguin – very cute (yes you are cute too Munguin!) and that’s a hellava closeup of the bee. Kudos to the photographer risking being stung.

    All in all a balm for the soul, one could almost say life reaffirming.

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  3. Thanks to you tris, and all the contributors for the lovely photos.
    O/t I know, but my wife and I were fortunate to get both our jags yesterday, Covid and Flu. Just in case anyone is doubtful about going along when invited, the procedure was superb. Took less than 30m, and that included a 15m seat to make sure we didn’t suffer any immediate side effects. Staff couldn’t have been kinder and professional. Please attend and make us all safer.

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    1. I wondered if they would do the two at the same time, Alex.

      Great that you got them. Was it in your doctors surgery?

      Hear hear for attending and getting it done.

      A neighbour of mine, despite 2 jags, got Covid and was in bed for what must have been more than a month…nearer 2 months. He seems to be improving now, but, I’m told, looks absolutely terrible and had to sit down and rest after climbing one flight of 8 steps.

      So I’d go along with what you advise here.

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      1. The advice being offered here in the States is to get your Covid vaccination (or the Pfizer Covid booster being given to older people at greater risk) along with your usual Fall flu shot. I imagine the same advice applies to the British vaccine.

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      2. Tks tris. It was carried out in a town centre hall and the arrangements were superb. Twelve cubicles in all, it was like a production line, but done with the utmost care and compassion. My wife suffers from Alzheimer’s Disease, so I asked if we could be vaccinated together, and that was done with the minimum of fuss. First class, and I have e-mailed our local Health Board, and Humza, to congratulate them on their performance.

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        1. Awww, brilliant, Alex. I’m glad it was made easy for you and your wife.

          I’ve never had an unpleasant experience with the SNHS (and I’m sure the other ones are the same). Despite the immense pressure they are under, and have been for the last couple of years, they are quite simply superb. No matter what the Scottish Tories say about them.

          It was considerate of you to email the health board and Humza.

          They get so much stick when they ar4 doing the hardest job.

          I’d like to suggest that we all do that (assuming we have a decent service).

          It’s time we did something to thank these people, other than clap.

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    2. I will when I’m called but I don’t expect to be called soon. Which means I’ll get the flu jag much later than I normally do. My GP practise says it’s been taken out their hands and done centrally. So I’ll need them to realise I need to be bumped up the list from my age group to underlying conditions grp.

      I once had 3 jags in one day. Flu, swine flu and because they had spare pneumonia, one of them too even though I was too young and indeed still am too young to qualify for the latter!

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          1. Ofttimes I have asked myself about that, PP.

            Ofttimes, indeed.

            (Message from Munguin… It’s true, PP. He’s always banging on about what he would do without you.)


  4. #5 is very disturbing. Just how many spiders does it take to cover a patch of ground; how big are they; and where are they located?
    This report from New Zealand is particularly unsettling. Which description is worse? Thousands and thousands of spiders so tiny you can hardly see them……OR……..”sheet web spider species, the largest of which is Cambridgea foliata,” which it describes as “palm sized.”
    It then goes on to say (my emphasis) that “the SMALLEST sheet web spiders measure just a few CENTIMETERS across.” My view is that any spider which is a FEW centimeters in diameter has no business being called “smallest,” however large it’s bigger relative is.

    The rule of thumb is that it’s better to know where a spider is than where it isn’t. And grass makes a great hiding place.

    Blanket of Spiderwebs Covers Entire Field (video):


    1. LOL. Beautiful.

      Think of all the work that went into that coverage, and then thnk of what the spiders must have thought when the dog ran through it and a rain storm followed.

      “Oh well, I guess we better start at the beginning again.”

      At least spiders eat these irritating flies that buzz around all day…

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    1. It’s a beautiful island but it’s a pity about the weather the film crew got. When it’s sunny it’s just stunning. Go in late May and be stunned!

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      1. It’s put me in the mood to go, and as I refuse to fly anywhere abroad, holidays next year will be at home.

        My neighbours are away to Skye this week.

        As you say, weather oer there is never that great.


        OK… we’ll see what we can do.


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    1. Reassuring to see the Daily Mail latest item in a series to prove how everything associated with the Scottish Parliament is shambolic. God bless ye, Ma’am.

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      1. Oh yes, shambolic is a word the Daily Heil loves to throw about when referring to Edinburgh. Given that it does it a good deal less about London, I’m beginning to wonder if any of member of the staff there actually knows the meaning of the word. Doubtful.


  5. O/t So Scotland men were playing yesterday and it was only on subscription telly. Though handily STV (I’m not sure what that the S stands for) were showing the England match for free.

    However in case you are interested here are the highlights.

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    1. Having watched that I can imagine why STV (the S stands for Sewage, btw) wouldn’t have wanted to show it.

      That goalie was a bit fluorescent, wasn’t he… pretty in pink!

      I don;t know why they bother to have STV. It’s not even slightly Scottish.

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