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  1. Another fine selection this week . . .

    Pic 3: Frankie Howerd

    Pic 4: Another of those Parisian buses, presumably after they were taken out of service.

    Pic 15: Is that the QEII prior to launch?

    Pic 20: Sic a parcel o rogues . . .

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    2. Pic 15 is the QE2 after launch being taken into the fitting-out basin to have her upperworks fitted, amongst other things. Launching in this state helped keep the weight low and aided stability as she came off the ways. Hundreds of tons of drag chains were fitted to the bow to keep her head in line with the berth and stop her skewing round as she took the water under her stern and drag increased. This was the moment of greatest danger of capsize and the ship had to be kept running straight at all costs.
      She was launched across the river into the mouth of the river Cart, giving enough room for her great length.

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  2. Pic 1 – When much of Africa was ours – the pink bits anyway. Pic 3 – Frankie Howerd – allegedly a comedian. Pic 7 – Advert for Hitler’s ‘Mein Kampf’ (My Struggle) – turgid, racist, whingeing rant – a book that arguably is worth burning. Pic 9 – What a way to spend an evening – it must have been enthralling! Pic 14 – Teenage heart throbs Bros. Pic 15 – Launch of RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 from John Brown’s yard Clydebank, pic taken from Renfrew side of river. Pic 18 – Dionne Warwick. Pic 20 – ‘Sic a parcel o’ rogues in a nation.’

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    2. I remember thinking I should read “Mein Kampf” and at least try to understand what it was that made him what he was. I* just couldn’t.

      Mind you, as a young lad I couldn’t see what exactly the difference was between Germany doing what it did in Europe and the Brits doing it in Africa and Asia…

      Freddie and the Dreamers twice nightly? Ye gads. I think I can understand why Dusty Springfield wanted to escape British Show business.

      DonDon, you were right about the QE2

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      1. Some of Hitler’s favourite reading were novels about the wild west, with cowboys massacring Indians (an inferior race). It gave him ideas ..

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    3. Right with the map, Andi. That’s what caught my eye – and the the thought how many readers would emember when the map of Africa looked like that. It’s dated 1949 and from that year’s Pears Cyclopaedia, naturally also the source of the eponymous soap ad further down.

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      1. Replying to John MacD, 14:44. Wherever it ends up.
        That makes the map contemporaneous with me starting school.
        It would have been the style I would have grown up with until The Gold Coast became Ghana.
        Or should that have read: ‘up with which I would have grown’ ?

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  3. Too clever by half – again. Number plates seemed a good place to start for 13, but that proved inconclusive, especially with one of them being Lanark and the naturally misleading thought that Scottish ports will be the most likely AOY candidates. Look again. Idiot! It’s right there – Weynouth Quay signage. That explains the Devon reg on the bus. Weymouth is next door in Dorset. When? Mid to late -60s. No suffix letter on the number plates but new British Rail name and logo narrow the date options. -ways dropped from Railways in 1965 as it was deemed too old-fashioned and the new logo introduced at the same time. British Airways seemed to manage, though, and lasted longer.

    No 16 proved more successful with the number plates, although the Falls Road destination on the bus is a bit of a giveaway. Could that be a Munguin red herring and there’s another Falls Road somewhere? No. Belfast it is, confirmed by the FZ reg.

    Thanks for another enjoyable start to Saturday morning. Let’s hope the enjoyment continues as the rest of the results come in.

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    2. John MacD – In Pic 13 the car in front is a Hillman Hunter, carrying what looks like an “F” suffix on its reg plate making it a 1967/68 registration, giving some idea of the date. Behind it is a Mk 2 Ford Consul and at the back is a Mk2 Ford Cortina, introduced in 1966, same year as the Hunter.

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      1. Pretty good eysight, Morego! I couldn’t read them all that clearly even with a mag glass, blowing up phone pic, and comparing with laptop screen. Could not spot the suffix letters so I thought the cars must all pre-date their introduction. Needed the glass as well just to make out Weymouth on the building!

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        1. Aye John, I knew that models produced from 1966 must have at least a “D” suffix, so that gave me a clue. Interestingly, the Hunter range – there were many badge-engineered variants – was known by the code name “Arrow” for that body style and a deal was made to have the car built in Iran from the mid 1970s. It was called the Paykan (Farsi for arrow) and was in production until 2005. They sold in many thousands and can still be seen in news reports in the streets of Tehran, mostly serving as taxis. I don’t remember the last time I saw one in Scotland…

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  4. Pic 16 is, I think, Belfast, as one of the trolleybuses says it’s going to the Falls Road. Maybe there are other Falls Roads that I don’t know about in other cities, of course.

    Picture of the launch of the QE2 – I think we’ve seen that one before, Tris. I was in the yard with my father watching it – I was only 11 or 12 at the time, but I was standing up on something so I could still see quite well. When the ship actually went into the water, it raised up such a wave that all the folk watching from the opposite bank got very wet indeed. I don’t think anyone was injured, though.

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    1. I don’t think there’s another Falls Road… although exactly why not, I’m not sure.

      You’d have thought that crowd watching the QE2 would have been kept back from where the water was bound to be raised!!

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    2. Welcome back, Ed. Didn’t realise you were such a bairn. I was on the Daily Express at the time and I think just about everyone in the newsroom was on the launch story. I was part of the side-show team just in case the wake did create a tsunami on the far side. As you say, just a few drookit folk and that it was it. Non-story and back to Albion Street.

      Photographers who did get close to the action and back with early picture had another tsunami story though. A tidal wave of whisky for the guests. Naturally, the snappers took advantage and filled their developer tanks with as much as they could take away. That way we all had a dram to celebrate the launch, even those of us who were on a what-if-maybe angle that did not materialise. Happy daze!

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      2. Thanks Marcia.
        In fairness to the presenter she was probably speaking to an age group that would also be captivated by Jewel and Warriss.
        Jewel and Warriss, sheesh, glad I missed them first time round.

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      1. I’m glad that I’m not the only one who found the woman to be annoying. I’m thinking that the intended audience must be children, and people are ALWAYS annoyingly cutesy (not to say patronizing and condescending) when talking to children. (Children are frequently annoying themselves, but that’s another story.) I notice that at the conclusion, she says that she’s going to take a bath (instead of a shower, as an American would say.) Maybe the Brits do take baths, since the famous lack of mixer taps in British bathroom plumbing makes showers with separate hot and cold shower heads impossible?

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          1. These shower units are installed in newer homes in the states too, but in older plumbing, the shower head has usually been installed over the bathtub as a single bath/shower. This was no problem with a mixer tap plumbing arrangement, but I assumed that old British bathtubs probably had separate hot and cold taps. Interesting!

            We had a TV show in the states called “How it’s Made.” It was mostly just pictures of how things are assembled and prepared for market using fast-moving assembly line automation. Pictures of chocolate covered creme filled candies and pastries being made and wrapped are ideal for such a production. Of course the wrapping operation wasn’t automated back in the day……

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        2. Danny…maybe brits take baths.
          I have managed to overcome my emotional scarring from the historical Scottish shower plumbing setup, I can now enjoy showers.

          To explain the trauma, picture this Danny, an enamelled cast iron bath within the house but as far away from the single household heat source that it makes the sun, at 93 million miles, your best source of heat. Two rubber funnels,rubber tube connected to the shower head, some 3 to 4 ft from the funnels. The rubber funnels are pushed over the two enlarged bath tap outlets, let the fun and cleansing begin. Well not quite, you have to balance the flow to get a comfortable temperature, a delicate operation that takes a deft touch and luck.

          Further explanation, the cold tap is pressured from the mains supply, the hot tank is pressured from a water tank about 4 ft above your head. Nonsensical, it’s to do with the price of copper!

          You finally manage to arrive at a temperature you can endure. Your feet are thankful of reaching this stage because they had given up trying to heat up the cast iron they are standing on. The cold room now steamed up like a Turkish sauna, three things can happen (and usually do) and none will be a help in your washing.
          1) You stand up to wet your hair, the heat softened rubber folds over and stops the hot tap outlet, prepare for an ecclesiastical/public school shower.
          2) You stand up and the rubber funnel blocks the cold outlet which almost immediately blows the funnel off, prepare for a scalding.
          3) Everything going fine, hair soaped when somebody decides to fill a kettle, hot tap takes the upper hand, skin crinkling hot. At this point the uninitiated will try and readjust the temperature. Wrong. Leave it alone, “Step away from the shower,” wait till the kettle is filled.

          I have been scalded, scolded (for my language) and times have given up, “That’s it, enough, I’m taking the rest of the soap off with the towel.” A price paid for personal hygiene and social acceptance.

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            1. Alan…..What a great story! Loved your detailed description of the water-temperature-challenged shower arrangement! While I assumed that British bathtubs probably once had separate hot and cold taps (as I understand even some modern British plumbing has), I assumed that showers must have always had a mixer tap. The ingenuous rubber funnels and hose to merge the hot and cold water hadn’t occurred to me.

              There are of course modern versions of the shower head and flexible hose arrangement that are marketed in the States as a “shower wand” (or some such name.) I think maybe they were popular in the UK and/or Europe before they showed up in the states. I once saw a British actor on an American TV talk show describing the contortions he had to go through, twisting and turning as he tried to rinse the soap off, while showering under a typical American shower head rigidly mounted on the wall above the bathtub.

              As I understand it, there’s a traditional British aversion (for example) to filling the kettle with hot water. The idea being that potable water for drinking has to be cold water from the mains, since older British hot water systems used elevated open tanks in the attic to provide pressure, exactly as you described. This presumably leads to a practice of running the cold water briefly, even if it’s from a modern mixer tap, before filling the kettle. American hot water systems typically use a sealed tank which is pressurized by the mains. As I suppose modern British plumbing is. (Sealed except for a pressure relief valve for safety.)

              I’ve read that Churchill describes in his memoirs the first mixer tap that he ever saw. It was in Russia I think.

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            1. Danny, that may be true in England, I honestly don’t remember what our water supply was when I was a kid living there, but it’s not like that here.

              No cold water tank and no hot water tank in Munguin Towers.. and there are mixer taps in all the many bathrooms and the kitchens and scullery…. not to mention the many outhouses and sundry accommodations many of which I’ve not yet had the opportunity to visit.

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              1. Tris…..I knew that everything would be up to date on the Munguin Towers estate. I suppose that guided tours are provided of the many and sundry accommodations on the grounds. 😉 The guy in that video BTW is the same guy who made the video about the world class, top quality electrical plugs in the UK.

                I think I read that open hot water tanks were especially a feature of old London buildings and building codes that went back to Victorian times and had not yet been updated.

                The plumbing is actually worse in New York City in at least one respect I’d say.
                In most cities, the water mains are systems that furnish potable (treated/purified) drinking water to customers with sufficient pressure to push it to the highest levels of the average tallest buildings in the city or town. (Maybe using a water tower on the top of a nearby hill in the area to provide the pressure.) Then, the local hot water systems in a house or building use the pressure from the mains to provide pressure in a closed and sealed hot water tank.

                Well, in New York City, the water supply from upstate New York gets down to the city at a pressure that won’t send it higher than a six story building. So the solution is to require the building owners to provide their own pressure systems for their buildings. The nineteenth century solution is still in use, with EACH old building having its OWN water tank on the roof. This is not only an open tank that provides water to be heated, but also provides the DRINKING water for the building…..complete with bacteria, pigeon droppings, etc, etc, from the old tanks which are seldom inspected and whose maintenance is the responsibility of the building owners. The thousands and thousands of old water tanks on New York City roofs are a “cultural icon” of the city, we are told by New Yorkers…..LOL.

                There’s no way that I would drink the water from any New York City water tap. I would carry around bottled water everywhere. 😉

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                1. New York water is disgusting, Danny.

                  I suppose that the natives must get used to that though and impervious to the nasty effects of the cultural icons… like pigeon poo!!

                  LOL

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                    2. Yep……..And West Side Story couldn’t have been produced without New York City fire escapes. 😉

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                    7. Derek……That energetic keyboard version prompted me to look for a piano version by the composer himself. Leonard Bernstein was a pretty good pianist in his own right, and I wondered how he would do it on a Steinway. Sadly, I didn’t find a Bernstein keyboard version. 😉

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                    8. I believe that they used to last a few gigs; he’d plan a tour to pick a new one up every now and again. A pal of mine has a badly painted (black) Hammond with key-edge cuts that ticks all the boxes for having been one of Emerson’s.

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        3. Ah yes… there are two main modern-day workarounds for the famous variable-temperature Brit-style shower and the rubber bath-tap attachment things (mainly manufactured by a company called Croydex,* if I recall correctly).

          The first, and easiest and cheapest to install, usually, is the electric: your cold water passes through an electrical heating unit, and you can regulate the flow to regulate the temperature. The fancier ones come with gizmos to compensate for varying water pressure, putting an end to the time-hallowed game enjoyed by generations of British kids called “start turning the kitchen cold tap on and off as soon as Daddy starts singing”.

          The second is the one mentioned in Danny’s information video below, which we call the combi boiler: gas-fired, heats water for hot-water radiators in the rooms, and provides hot water on demand.

          One of the hazards of Brit-style domestic hot water systems which the young man does not mention is that the cold water tanks up in the attic were originally lead-lined – so you really did not want to drink that. People of my generation and older were also taught not to drink from the cold water tap without running it first, so that the water coming out of had not been sitting around in lead pipes. For a long time there were government grants for replacing lead pipes with copper, but – if memory serves – Margaret Thatcher put an end to those. It’s worth mentioning in that connection that lead pipes are a much less serious problem in areas with hard water, as scale builds up on them and helps stop the lead leaching out. In Scotland, however, where our water is with almost no exceptions extremely soft and slightly acid, old lead plumbing remains a serious health risk wherever it continues to exist.

          By the way, it is in fact possible to get mixer taps that don’t actually mix within the plumbing: they have a wall between the two sides, a bit like a nasal septum, so the hot and the cold mix only when they come out of the – faucet, would that be, Danny?

          * Danny, I find that Croydex (of Wilmslow, in Cheshire, rather than Croydon, in South London / Sussex, which is kinda disappointing) have updated their range. Here’s their “Secura” rubber shower attachment thing: https://is.gd/ohDVaV. The original shower-style things were like what they’re now calling a “shampoo spray”: https://is.gd/UftPVA.

          I recall too that the tap attachments used to come in one of three colours: white, which was acceptable, and cutesy-wootsey baby blue or strawberry ice cream girly pink. Nasty.

          Croydex also continue to manufacture a range of rubber -nowadays, vinyl – bath mats (https://is.gd/ekeioI), for laying on the bottom of the bath so that the feeble and decrepit don’t slip and damage themselves, and to prevent certain mischievous and irresponsible persons, who must remain nameless, from claiming they slipped when plunging backwards from a standing position, sending tsunamis of bathwater all over the facilities and causing catastrophic short-circuits in the wiring for the lighting in their auntie’s living rooms downstairs in the middle of BBC nature documentaries. Such excuses are particularly susceptible to debunking in the absence of solid soap in the immediate environment, in those establishments which have adopted Radox shower gel wholesale.

          Those not familiar with them should know that those mats in the bath can become very nasty indeed, to the point that trying to forget about them completely is far preferable to taking the risk of peeling back a corner to see if someone else needs to clean them.

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          2. Ed……Thanks for the interesting info. I really had no idea about the rubber hose things that allow comfortably warm water to be mixed from separate hot and cold taps.

            I do tend to more often say “faucet,” but I see tap used perhaps more internationally. An internet definition says:

            Faucet as a noun (North America):
            An exposed plumbing fitting; a tap or spigot; a regulator for controlling the flow of a liquid from a reservoir.

            Tap as a noun:
            A tapering cylindrical pin or peg used to stop the vent in a cask; a spigot.

            Seems like faucet may mostly relate to the exposed fitting, whereas tap or spigot may more correctly refer to the internal mechanism that regulates or stops the flow of water. (Maybe “mixer tap” is a good term for it.)

            Lead pipe continues to be a problem in the states too. A new source for the Flint (Michigan) municipal water supply attacked the minerals that lined the lead pipes of Flint and caused lead contamination and a serious health disaster for the city:

            “Utilities insert innocuous chemicals into drinking water that create buildups of minerals that coat the interiors of lead pipes, sealing off the lead from the water. But these coatings can quickly break down if the chemical balance is disturbed. In Flint, all it took for the protective minerals to dissipate was switching Flint’s drinking water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River, as the latter had far more financial pollutants.”

            https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2019/10/17/why_does_the_us_still_have_so_many_lead_water_pipes.html

            You might be interested in the YouTube video and New York Times article I posted (above) about the “iconic” water towers of New York City. I noticed them especially in the old low rise construction in Greenwich Village for example, between the skyscrapers of Mid-Town to the north and the skyscrapers of the Wall Street financial district to the south. I’m told that the Manhattan bedrock to the north and south support gigantically tall skyscrapers, whereas the bedrock under Greenwich Village…..not so much. Therefore, shorter buildings and more visible water towers.

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          1. One of my favourite movies – not that I can claim to have a great catalogue of movies watched, but ‘The Producers’ must rank as an all-time great. If you have yet to see it, find it somewhere on your multi-channel TV options and treat yourself to lots of laughs. Wonderful stuff – including Hitler and springtime!

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            2. John…..I loved that movie. The musical adaptation on Broadway was also successful, and then the Broadway musical was made into a second film. I’ve never seen that second film.

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  7. 11 – The Winter Olympics from 1936.

    Jugend der Welt is the official film of the 1936 Winter Olympics in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany. The film was released the same year both the Summer and Winter Olympics took place, but it quickly fell into oblivion as Leni Riefenstahl’s well-known masterpiece “Olympia” was released in two parts. The Olympic Committee cut out some of the Nazi elements in this restored version.

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  8. A personal memory re No.9. Through the comics I was reading about 1950, I thought Jewel and Warriss were the bees knees. One of my uncles had a newsagents shop in Maryhill Rd, Glasgow, and one of his customers was the manager of the Empire Theatre in Sauchiehall St, so he got me , and my folks, free tickets to see the duo. To put it in a nutshell, they were rid rotten.

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  9. Is that Haymarket station?

    Gullwing Mercedes production line; I think that they were all 300SLs, the 190 had conventional doors (if I’m right).

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    1. Munguin will have someone tie a piece of string to your tooth and someone else to attach the other end to the handle of an open door. A third person will slam the door!

      And he’ll only charge £2 000, thereby saving you £1 000 to spend on more sweets!

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  11. no 6 is Alloa station, taken in 1973, shortly after withdrawal of passenger services in June that year.
    It continued as ‘goods only’ well into the 1980’s serving the brewery (seen in background.
    The new station is built on the brewery site.

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    1. Alloa Station! I thought it looked familiar.

      My earliest memories are of waving to the drivers of the steam trains.

      Even after the brewery closed, the line was kept open for coal trains.

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    3. On of my local pubs was Ind Coope (Double Diamond and Norseman lager; urgh). The pub ran a brewery visit to Alloa which was well taken up. Free beer is free beer even when it’s pish. We were all nicely surprised when there was a pump giving away Lowenbrau in the hospitality suite. That’s all I remember…

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      2. “. . . Norseman lager. . . ”

        I have no recollection of Norseman. Do you mean Skol?

        Pretty sure that the Alloa Inde Coope brewery did Skol.

        And then there was the Aussie lager as well for a time. Was it Forsters, or Castlemaine 4X ???

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  13. Station reminds me a bit of Dundee West but I think the station building was more red sandstone (Scots Baronial by Andrew Heiton.)
    Couldn’t abide Donald Peers and his Babbling Brook – also thought Jewel and Warris were funny when I was growing up – then I grew up.
    The Barron Knights did a sendup of various 60’s groups incl Freddie’s lot. All I remember is that he was only 5’3″.
    Were Pears the same Pears’ Cyclopaedia ? If so, odd combination for a company product range.

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  14. OT… the appalling Jayda Fransen (I thought it was a joke when I heard she was standing in Glasgow Southside) has been roundly defeated. Very roundly. Pretty much truly circularly. Here’s a wee vid I pinched from The National of her results being read out, along with the result for (one of?) the other racist and fascist candidates, a right charmer from the Liberal Party, so called, the one who was ejected from the Emirates counting place thingmie day before yesterday for disruptive wotsit, threatening behaviour, and Nazi salutes. Something along those lines.

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      1. Tris, those 46 who voted for the unspeakable racist ex-con Jayda Fransen, and the other 100-odd who voted for the Liberal Party (is it possible that some of them thought they were voting for the LibDems?), are a much greater threat to peace and public order than the various communities of immigrants in the area, IMHO.

        My opinion is no doubt coloured by the fact that none of the “foreigners” that other people seem to fear and dislike has ever done me any harm, but I’ve been physically threatened, had a couple of people attempt to blackmail me, been cheated, robbed, denied accommodation, made homeless, discriminated against in employment, threatened with imprisonment and compulsory psychiatric treatment, beaten up and, yeah, even sexually assaulted by bog-standard British white guys – just for being who I am.

        We humans are notoriously bad at risk assessment, but I think I’ve got that one right at least.

        I expect people will understand why, if I were handed David Cameron’s apology for the Conservative Party’s past abuses against gay men on a silver salver, I’d be inclined to piss on it.

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        1. Piss on, mate.

          And I think you are right. Some may have voted for the Liberals thinking they were voting LibDem.

          Im not sure that we should allow similar names.

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  18. The Lord Banff came cheap.

    Betraying your country for the price of a scampi and chips and a pint in Wetherspoons.

    (Yes I know £11/2s would have bought you a hoose in 1707 – but all the same!).

    Hopefully his descendants are thoroughly ashamed of the old bastard.

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    1. LOL…

      Lucky for the Noble Lord Weatherspoon’s didn’t exist in those days and if it had, he’d have been unwise to risk the Scampi… Very high standards required for the preparation of fish dishes.

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    1. A short lived boy band called “Bros”. Two brothers, hence the name. If they ever got back together as a band, they could now be called “Baldies”.

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  21. I understand that all the constituency voting totals are now in, and the SNP have won 64 out of 73 constituencies.

    For ease of reference, and to deliver the Usual Suspects an immediate intellectual sock in the chops, they should be immediately reminded that if Holyrood were elected on the same, FPTP basis as the Westminster parliament, 64 out of 73 would be equivalent to – near as dammit, and ignoring fractional MPs – 570 seats, an overall majority of 245 out of 650. (For purposes of comparison, the Blair Government’s majority in 1997 was 179.)

    That’s without the usual fripperies, folderols and finesses required to exclude and include speakers of the house and seven absent Sinn Féin MPs from the reckoning, of course, which would result in a majority of 251.

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      1. It was a mini-referendum, the Pro-Independence Yes side won 72 seats and the Anti-Independence side took 57 seats which is a majority of 15. The Tories lost.

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        1. Yeah, but all the excuses are coming out.

          Tompkins is on about how there are more vote4s for dependence parties so we can’t have a referendum.

          But if he’s saying the validity of the parliament is in doubt for referendum votes, then it’s in doubt for everything, so maybe for him we need to have another election?

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    2. The SNP won 62 Constituencies and 2 List seats. In 1999 in the first election for the first Scottish Parliament the SNP won 7 Constituency seats. In 2003 we won 9. How times are changed.

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    3. Oops, I made a mistake – it’s 63 on the constituency vote, not 64 – I hadn’t realized the SNP won one list seat, in the South of Scotland region. That makes the total 236 + 6 at Westminster, i.e. a majority in practice of 242 rather than 251.

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