The orange drink carton reminds me of school milk packaging; after they’d moved on from the dinky wee glass bottles.
There was precisely one, ⅓ of a pint carton, delivered to my primary three class every day for me and me alone. I was the youngest (I started school at 4) and, ironically, the biggest. I got glowered at, by the victims of Thatcher’s (as Minister for Education) cuts, while I sooked up my often lukewarm, never refrigerated milk.
When the Snatcher took it away from kids on the basis that the money would be more usefully spent on rich people who voted for the Tories, did they let the younger ones keep it?
I thinkit was firstly restricted to primaries 1/3 and, then the stigmatisation of offering it only to vhildren whose families were in receipt of’ benefits’.
That would make sense. I might’ve been in primary 4 (I’m going back almost 50 years here), but because I was 7 (or maybe 8) and everyone else was 8 (or 9), I qualified for an extra year of free milk.
There were plenty of kids, in the other class, who qualified. At the intake, the they were split between 2 classes; older and younger. When I joined the school, in primary 3, I was put into the class with most space; which just happened to be the older group.
Jubblies, now that brings back memories of snipping a bit of the corner with your teeth and then sucking on the ice to be left with a bag of slushy ice.
The Jubbly was a frozen orange monster that you opened and sucked away at. We used to buy them (when we had the money) after school and walk home sucking and sticky. This was in the early 60’s. Those were the days.
I now live round the corner from the shop we used to buy them from, within sight of the school.
Pic 3 and 13 are of course school buses – (ucheeleesten avtoboos – school bus) The colour is a pointer, yellow just like in the U.S., a great idea. You often see road signs in Eastern Europe with CTOП on them. This reads STOP. Possibly the English word is recognised as a neutral Lingua Franca term across many language areas.
Seems odd that the French would use the word “STOP”. Perhaps it has wider recognition across languages than the English word, but surely there’s a French word that would be preferred in France.
But you do see and hear the noun ” un stop” or even the verb infinitive, “stopper”, particularly in slang!
France has signed several treaties (most notably the Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals in 1971) that mandates the use of the label “STOP” on stop signs.
Presumably that applies to other EU/EEA/EFTA countries too.
The buildings to the left and right of the junction have survived, but only to flank the entrance to the soulless Bon-Accord Centre. Aiberdeen cooncillors hae a lot to answer for.
The trams are still in operation, so pre-1958. Is that a Ford Prefect 100 there? That model came out in 1954.
Although as I understand it, with them it was all about profiteering.
They built the utterly hideous Overgate centre, a concrete monstrosity, pretty much for the benefits of a certain company that supplied concrete… owned by a certain councillor.
Actually there were a hard core number of local Dundee businessmen who were behind most of the dodgy dealings in the 1960s & 1970s. Some of the councillors were a front for them. The local newspaper knew all the facts about what was going on but failed to publish in case the then Labour supporting readers would boycott their papers.
The Woodside tram route closed in November 1955. (before my time, or before I was old enough to note such things).
From the ‘HRG’ (1955) reg on the Ford I would suggest this was taken in the final year of operation.
Sadly this area, (junction of Kirkgate/Schoolhill and George Street) has been obliterated by shopping malls.
The store on the left, Reid and Pearson, was notable for having a ballroom on it’s upper floor.
see here…
As for the tram, it looks like it may be no. 105, in which case it was built in 1925 and utilised an ACT built body, Peckham electric motors and lasted until the final day of tram operation in May 1955.
That’s May 1958, not 1955. Brain fade!
Having flooded the city centre with shopping malls, retail is going into retreat and there’s going to be a lot of vacant premises.
John Lewis is apparently closing, although I suspect the loss of the ‘brutalist’ ex Norco ‘blancmange’ won’t cause too many tears to be shed.
When the Norco building was first constructed, there was a rumour that the architects had got the plans mixed up. The real Norco building, with lots of glazing in the upper floors, was sent to the far east and what Aberdeen got was designed as a fish factory in a hotter climate.
I did see them, thanks to John,
A Merc mini-bus and – well I really haven’t a clue about the other one, could be anything.
Obviously Bulgarian school buses show up a gap in my knowledge.
Oh the shame!
Thought it was Aberdeen by the stonework but couldn’t place where…until upon closer inspection I picked out the signage for the RUBBER SHOP.
I was there as a loon in the 60’s…I have a vague recollection of a shopping arcade somewhere thereabouts…and i remember a shoe shop where you could get your feet x-rayed
That would have been the co-opie arcade in Loch Street.
They had a system of pneumatic tubes that sent your payment up to the cash department and returned with the change and check. Fascinating for a youngster.
The ‘Co-opie’ arcade in Loch Street. The Northern Co-op’s Headquarters until replaced by the space-age monstrosity of Norco House.
The Arcade fell victim to (yet another) misbegotten Council ‘Improvement’ and was eventually demolished.
It used to be very busy on ‘Divi day’… in it’s heyday the dividend was 2/6d in the £.
I still remember being sent on errands as a child & faithfully quoting mother’s dividend number. The Co-op was everywhere. In fact I still use the number – albeit as a memorable PIN – so I won’t quote it here😉
All this talk of the Co-op divvi. I remember, in Glasgow, at its best it was 2/6 in the £. You daren’t go back home without the divvi slip and my mum’s co-op number is engraved in my brain – 44272 – seventy years later.
In the good times my school clothes came from the Co-op divvi; in poorer times the Provi Check; in very poor times the Barras.
Well done, Alex. I didn’t think anyone would get it. Until last week I didn’t know about it and I came upon it when I was out for a dander. I was intrigued by the masonic symbols on top so I looked it up:
Had worked out Aberdeen tram from the granite buildings but others knew more, as I suspected they would.
Is that Dronley station on the old line out of Dundee to Newtyle or somewhere near? Technically it would have been a halt but not reflected in the name.
My only recollection of the ATS comes from a 60’s TV confrontation between the notorious Edinburgh Councillor Kidd and one Sean Hignett who had written or produced something, to which Kidd took exception, in the Fringe. When Kidd turned the conversation to respective military service records, he sniffily asked if Hignett had been in the ATS, but found himself slightly outranked. May not mean much to contemporaries but sticks in my mind.
There were some of the little Bedford buses around in my childhood, usually with wooden slatted seats from wartime austerity, and I wonder how many were sold off to other countries. Have encountered quite a few ex-UK examples in unexpected places.
Just watched the BBC complaints programme. I don’t know why bothered. Of all the people who complained about the OTT coverage of Phil da Greek’s death, they picked two middleclass Englishwomen who were complaining that it undermined the monarchy.
LOL. They couldn’t (with their royal charter) possibly have anyone say … for heaven’s sake… he was 99, he was sick. Most younger people had probably never heard of him. He was not “the grandfather of the nation”; rather he was a crabby old man who, unlike most crabby old men, got away with being sexist, racist and downright rude to people because he was who he was.
I’m sure the BBC’s coverage was sycophantic to the power of 10. So how could it have undermined the monarchy?
And, doesn’t the behaviour of Airmiles undermine the monarchy a bit more than endless arselicking?
Pic 8 – Juliet Greco French chanteuse. Pic 11 – I really had to beat my brains with this one and it’s a wild guess but I think it may be The Smiths (Morrisey on the Right) 😄 Re pic 18 – I wonder if it came in larger packs, maybe Bigpoo.
Fake alert!
No 19 is a ‘ringer’, not what it appears to be at a casual glance.
The body originally belonged to a Bedford OB (1950, ex-Western National) but inside is a modern campervan with flatscreen TV etc . A Bedford OB bodyshell has been bolted onto an Iveco Daily chassis, the engine, chassis etc., are Iveco.
The wheels are out-of-scale to the bodywork. A pretty hideous act of vandalism if you ask me. Apparently it’s been advertised on eBay at £139,995, but didn’t sell.
This is from the auctioneer’s catalogue, which doesn’t say anything specific about the transmission …
“The amazing transformation of this 1950 OB presented in bronze and contrasting yellow with ruby red leather interior is perhaps one of the finest examples of a bespoke luxury motor-home we have ever come across. From its modern running gear to the American walnut hand-crafted kitchen, Apple Mac computer and Bose sound system, we can safely say the 3000 plus professional man-hours taken to convert this classic bus to such a high standard has certainly not been wasted and would put any modern-day motor-home to shame.
A 6.5 ton, 2006 Iveco three litre HDi engine and running gear with rear air suspension have replaced the original setup, with the engine having covered just 23,000 miles under a full service history. A ten point roll cage and side crash safety bars have been fitted to offer more modern safety standards with all but the roof having been re-panelled. We are told that this bus will comfortably achieve 90mph (if permitted) and would cruise at 70mph while towing…”
Further info here…
Undoubtedly a clever piece of engineering, but just looks wrong, the wheels are too small and the bonnet too big.
DonDon – am I reading it correctly that my ‘fake alert’ comment has offended you? If so I’m sorry, any negativity on my part was directed solely towards the person who thought it a good idea to carry out this ‘crime’ against a vintage bus.
That was apparently a Walter Bell, classic motor enthusiast, who (allegedly) spent over 3,500 hours and £200k ‘restoring’ the vehicle and making it road-worthy. So I couldn’t resist smiling on reading that after several failed attempts it eventually sold for £72k on Catwiki!
Oops!
Originally this was a Bedford OB with Duple Vista bodywork. Despite what the auctioneer (who should know better) seems to think, this is not a restoration, there isn’t any original Bedford left. Images online show the original Bedford chassis sitting derelict in a yard.
So this is basically a 7.5 ton Fiat (Iveco) truck, onto which has been attached a heavily rebuilt Duple bodyshell concealing luxury camper van innards. An incongruous and ugly combination to me, but I’m biased.
As for your ZF question, I don’t know. Iveco, like many large truck and bus manufacturers, source gearboxes from ZF, so it’s very possible, especially if it’s an automatic. But without any knowledge of the original vehicle – or subsequent changes made as part of the rebuild – it’s impossible to tell.
If you want to pursue this you could contact either the original vendor (Mr Bell) or WVM coachworks, who are advertised on the vehicle. Best of luck!
Danny, Pic 1 was dealt with upthread by Alex Montrose. It is a Masonic tower called Modlach Tower.
It is in Glen Esk, somewhere north of Dundee.
The photo was sent in by Dave Albiston.
Thanks DonDon. I logged on late and went through the postings quickly. Apologies to Alex for overlooking his comment. Interesting! (Google image did not yield info.)
MUNGUIN'S NEW REPUBLIC 
Thanks, tris. Another interesting selection this week.
Pic 4: I used to enjoy Rowntrees Fruit Gums. The black ones were best.
Pic 5: Ugh! Did they really sell cigarettes like that? Unbelievable to modern eyes.
Note that they are not recommended for children under 6!
Pic 12: At first I was stumped by the lack of an accent, but of course this poster says that blackmarketeering is a crime.
Pic 15: Z Cars
Pic 20: The packaging of that orange juice looks very awkward.
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The orange drink carton reminds me of school milk packaging; after they’d moved on from the dinky wee glass bottles.
There was precisely one, ⅓ of a pint carton, delivered to my primary three class every day for me and me alone. I was the youngest (I started school at 4) and, ironically, the biggest. I got glowered at, by the victims of Thatcher’s (as Minister for Education) cuts, while I sooked up my often lukewarm, never refrigerated milk.
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Was there an age limit to the milk, then?
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It was all stages of primary – well it was when I enrolled in 1953!
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When the Snatcher took it away from kids on the basis that the money would be more usefully spent on rich people who voted for the Tories, did they let the younger ones keep it?
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I thinkit was firstly restricted to primaries 1/3 and, then the stigmatisation of offering it only to vhildren whose families were in receipt of’ benefits’.
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Yeah, I guess these people would do that to children, Alasdair.
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That would make sense. I might’ve been in primary 4 (I’m going back almost 50 years here), but because I was 7 (or maybe 8) and everyone else was 8 (or 9), I qualified for an extra year of free milk.
There were plenty of kids, in the other class, who qualified. At the intake, the they were split between 2 classes; older and younger. When I joined the school, in primary 3, I was put into the class with most space; which just happened to be the older group.
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LOL
Just as well you were bright then, eh?
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The Evil Bitch of Grantham took away free milk for every primary school child in 1971. One of her lesser misdemeanours.
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Under the leadership of Ted Hampstead Heath.
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I too recall the intro of the new packaging and it reminded me of this:
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LOL… That was brilliant, Greig.
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Jubblies, now that brings back memories of snipping a bit of the corner with your teeth and then sucking on the ice to be left with a bag of slushy ice.
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Ah, it was ice?
That would make it easier!
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The Jubbly was a frozen orange monster that you opened and sucked away at. We used to buy them (when we had the money) after school and walk home sucking and sticky. This was in the early 60’s. Those were the days.
I now live round the corner from the shop we used to buy them from, within sight of the school.
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I owner when they stopped selling them?
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Aye but sucking on it meant you ended up with an orange coloured mouth and a big lump of plain ice.
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What did you do with the ice… Put it down someone’s shirt?
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As a rule, DonDon, they don’t put accents on capitals…although they sometimes do with the “acute” (aigu) over an E…
I’m not sure how you managed to drink that orange.
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Pics 3 and 11, the yellow coach and minibus, are from the same place.
I will hazard a guess: Bulgaria.
Another guess: the Mercedes minibus is parked outside a school.
Interestingly, the STOP-sign in the background is in Latin lettering.
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It is indeed Bulgaria. John sent them especially for Roddy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_sign#:~:text=non%2DLatin%20script.-,Europe,for%20stop%3A%20%22dur%22.
I seem to remember though, that in the Republic of Ireland their sign for stop reads “yield”.
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Pic 3 and 13 are of course school buses – (ucheeleesten avtoboos – school bus) The colour is a pointer, yellow just like in the U.S., a great idea. You often see road signs in Eastern Europe with CTOП on them. This reads STOP. Possibly the English word is recognised as a neutral Lingua Franca term across many language areas.
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It seems to be the standard in the EU/EEA, anyway, although the stop sign in Ireland is often Yield or Geill Sli.
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Seems odd that the French would use the word “STOP”. Perhaps it has wider recognition across languages than the English word, but surely there’s a French word that would be preferred in France.
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There is, Danny, a French word for Stop. Arrêter!
But you do see and hear the noun ” un stop” or even the verb infinitive, “stopper”, particularly in slang!
France has signed several treaties (most notably the Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals in 1971) that mandates the use of the label “STOP” on stop signs.
Presumably that applies to other EU/EEA/EFTA countries too.
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Interesting! I knew there was an international convention on road signs, but was surprised at the wide use of the word “STOP”.
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It seems to be widely used, Danny.
I think in the UK, it used to be HALT!
I suppose that no one actually says “HALT” any more though. 🙂
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😉
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Number 17 This was George Street, Aberdeen, many years ago, now alas no more.
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The buildings to the left and right of the junction have survived, but only to flank the entrance to the soulless Bon-Accord Centre. Aiberdeen cooncillors hae a lot to answer for.
The trams are still in operation, so pre-1958. Is that a Ford Prefect 100 there? That model came out in 1954.
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Rather like the councillors in Dundee, Dave.
Although as I understand it, with them it was all about profiteering.
They built the utterly hideous Overgate centre, a concrete monstrosity, pretty much for the benefits of a certain company that supplied concrete… owned by a certain councillor.
30 years later it was pulled down.
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Actually there were a hard core number of local Dundee businessmen who were behind most of the dodgy dealings in the 1960s & 1970s. Some of the councillors were a front for them. The local newspaper knew all the facts about what was going on but failed to publish in case the then Labour supporting readers would boycott their papers.
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LOL. Yes. That sounds like DCTs.
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The Woodside tram route closed in November 1955. (before my time, or before I was old enough to note such things).
From the ‘HRG’ (1955) reg on the Ford I would suggest this was taken in the final year of operation.
Sadly this area, (junction of Kirkgate/Schoolhill and George Street) has been obliterated by shopping malls.
The store on the left, Reid and Pearson, was notable for having a ballroom on it’s upper floor.
see here…
As for the tram, it looks like it may be no. 105, in which case it was built in 1925 and utilised an ACT built body, Peckham electric motors and lasted until the final day of tram operation in May 1955.
‘Dr Roddy’ 😁
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That’s May 1958, not 1955. Brain fade!
Having flooded the city centre with shopping malls, retail is going into retreat and there’s going to be a lot of vacant premises.
John Lewis is apparently closing, although I suspect the loss of the ‘brutalist’ ex Norco ‘blancmange’ won’t cause too many tears to be shed.
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Maybe Amazon will buy them up for warehouse storage.
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When the Norco building was first constructed, there was a rumour that the architects had got the plans mixed up. The real Norco building, with lots of glazing in the upper floors, was sent to the far east and what Aberdeen got was designed as a fish factory in a hotter climate.
Maybe just a rumour 🙂
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LOL
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It’s a great pity about the vandalism of our city centres.
I love these old trams. So much more appealing than modern ones.
Did you notice the Bulgarian buses John sent for you…?
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I did see them, thanks to John,
A Merc mini-bus and – well I really haven’t a clue about the other one, could be anything.
Obviously Bulgarian school buses show up a gap in my knowledge.
Oh the shame!
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Well, yes. As soon as travel is permitted, I suggest a research visit to Bulgaria…
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Thought it was Aberdeen by the stonework but couldn’t place where…until upon closer inspection I picked out the signage for the RUBBER SHOP.
I was there as a loon in the 60’s…I have a vague recollection of a shopping arcade somewhere thereabouts…and i remember a shoe shop where you could get your feet x-rayed
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Was that to see if your shoes fitted you?
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That would have been the co-opie arcade in Loch Street.
They had a system of pneumatic tubes that sent your payment up to the cash department and returned with the change and check. Fascinating for a youngster.
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Didn’t it take a long time to get your change back?
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The ‘Co-opie’ arcade in Loch Street. The Northern Co-op’s Headquarters until replaced by the space-age monstrosity of Norco House.
The Arcade fell victim to (yet another) misbegotten Council ‘Improvement’ and was eventually demolished.
It used to be very busy on ‘Divi day’… in it’s heyday the dividend was 2/6d in the £.
I still remember being sent on errands as a child & faithfully quoting mother’s dividend number. The Co-op was everywhere. In fact I still use the number – albeit as a memorable PIN – so I won’t quote it here😉
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Great minds!!!!😂
Credit to doric columns, where would we be without it!
It wasn’t there when I started ny post.
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Aye, that’s the one!
Thanks, Roddy & Dave, for the photo.
The place looks like “Diagon Alley”…and just as magical.
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All this talk of the Co-op divvi. I remember, in Glasgow, at its best it was 2/6 in the £. You daren’t go back home without the divvi slip and my mum’s co-op number is engraved in my brain – 44272 – seventy years later.
In the good times my school clothes came from the Co-op divvi; in poorer times the Provi Check; in very poor times the Barras.
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I guess it’s a bit like swiping your card at Morrisons or Sainsbury.
Although I doubt it’s anything like 2/6 in the £.
Morte like 1p in the £
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As if Munguin to try to get money out of your account…
2/6 in the pound was a fair amount.. 12.5%
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Early 50s, Ian.
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1. The Modlach Tower in beautiful Glen Esk.
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Well done, Alex. I didn’t think anyone would get it. Until last week I didn’t know about it and I came upon it when I was out for a dander. I was intrigued by the masonic symbols on top so I looked it up:
http://www.scottie59.plus.com/241/Masonica/mark/Esktower.htm
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Thanks Dave, I’ve been up Mt Battock a couple of times lately and my son in law spotted it in the distance.
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Yes, Alex. Dave sent this with the pic.
http://www.scottie59.plus.com/241/Masonica/mark/Esktower.htm
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Worst. Miming. Ever.
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Grim version of a good song too!
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The original.
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I prefer Petula’s version. But that won’t surprise anyone.
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Had worked out Aberdeen tram from the granite buildings but others knew more, as I suspected they would.
Is that Dronley station on the old line out of Dundee to Newtyle or somewhere near? Technically it would have been a halt but not reflected in the name.
My only recollection of the ATS comes from a 60’s TV confrontation between the notorious Edinburgh Councillor Kidd and one Sean Hignett who had written or produced something, to which Kidd took exception, in the Fringe. When Kidd turned the conversation to respective military service records, he sniffily asked if Hignett had been in the ATS, but found himself slightly outranked. May not mean much to contemporaries but sticks in my mind.
There were some of the little Bedford buses around in my childhood, usually with wooden slatted seats from wartime austerity, and I wonder how many were sold off to other countries. Have encountered quite a few ex-UK examples in unexpected places.
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Well done, Cairnallochy. It closed in 1955.
Today the line is part of the Sidlaw Paths Network… There’s almost nothing left of the station.
There is little more satisfying than someone with a high opinion of themselves being brought back down to earth!
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Seems a bit of recycling here – this was in a few weeks ago.
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Oh dear… Shhhh… don’t tell Munguin. Otherwise I’ll have another week on heavy duties.
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It swings right and goes along to Tealing, I think. There may have been a set of points that sent a line to Newtyle as well, of course…
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I think it went to Newtyle.
I’ve walked that part of the line.
Here are some details…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_and_Newtyle_Railway
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Just watched the BBC complaints programme. I don’t know why bothered. Of all the people who complained about the OTT coverage of Phil da Greek’s death, they picked two middleclass Englishwomen who were complaining that it undermined the monarchy.
Jesus wept.
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LOL. They couldn’t (with their royal charter) possibly have anyone say … for heaven’s sake… he was 99, he was sick. Most younger people had probably never heard of him. He was not “the grandfather of the nation”; rather he was a crabby old man who, unlike most crabby old men, got away with being sexist, racist and downright rude to people because he was who he was.
I’m sure the BBC’s coverage was sycophantic to the power of 10. So how could it have undermined the monarchy?
And, doesn’t the behaviour of Airmiles undermine the monarchy a bit more than endless arselicking?
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The reasoning was if people couldn’t get their fix of Eastenders, they would blame the monarchy. Condescending auld bats.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Hmmm… I not sure I’d have blamed him for dying… Just the BBC for acting like it was the end of everyone’s world.
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…just a bunch of extremists chanting “drain the pomp, drain the pomp”.
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I knew none of that. Thanks!
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Aye, the joy of royal charter…
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Pic 8 – Juliet Greco French chanteuse. Pic 11 – I really had to beat my brains with this one and it’s a wild guess but I think it may be The Smiths (Morrisey on the Right) 😄 Re pic 18 – I wonder if it came in larger packs, maybe Bigpoo.
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Yes, Greco, who died recently and the Smiths.
You really do wonder at people calling things by such stupid names…
Still, I guess it sticks in the mond.
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Fake alert!
No 19 is a ‘ringer’, not what it appears to be at a casual glance.
The body originally belonged to a Bedford OB (1950, ex-Western National) but inside is a modern campervan with flatscreen TV etc . A Bedford OB bodyshell has been bolted onto an Iveco Daily chassis, the engine, chassis etc., are Iveco.
The wheels are out-of-scale to the bodywork. A pretty hideous act of vandalism if you ask me. Apparently it’s been advertised on eBay at £139,995, but didn’t sell.
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Roddy, thanks for the Fake alert!! I was taken in completely, not knowing any better.
You say it is basically a modern Iveco. Does it have a ZF transmission, by any chance?
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This is from the auctioneer’s catalogue, which doesn’t say anything specific about the transmission …
“The amazing transformation of this 1950 OB presented in bronze and contrasting yellow with ruby red leather interior is perhaps one of the finest examples of a bespoke luxury motor-home we have ever come across. From its modern running gear to the American walnut hand-crafted kitchen, Apple Mac computer and Bose sound system, we can safely say the 3000 plus professional man-hours taken to convert this classic bus to such a high standard has certainly not been wasted and would put any modern-day motor-home to shame.
A 6.5 ton, 2006 Iveco three litre HDi engine and running gear with rear air suspension have replaced the original setup, with the engine having covered just 23,000 miles under a full service history. A ten point roll cage and side crash safety bars have been fitted to offer more modern safety standards with all but the roof having been re-panelled. We are told that this bus will comfortably achieve 90mph (if permitted) and would cruise at 70mph while towing…”
Further info here…
Undoubtedly a clever piece of engineering, but just looks wrong, the wheels are too small and the bonnet too big.
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I’m sorry you didn’t like it. Just as well Munguin decided not to buy it for you!
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Oh well in that case I like it very much….😃
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Yes, Roddy, but does it have a ZF transmission?
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DonDon – am I reading it correctly that my ‘fake alert’ comment has offended you? If so I’m sorry, any negativity on my part was directed solely towards the person who thought it a good idea to carry out this ‘crime’ against a vintage bus.
That was apparently a Walter Bell, classic motor enthusiast, who (allegedly) spent over 3,500 hours and £200k ‘restoring’ the vehicle and making it road-worthy. So I couldn’t resist smiling on reading that after several failed attempts it eventually sold for £72k on Catwiki!
Oops!
Originally this was a Bedford OB with Duple Vista bodywork. Despite what the auctioneer (who should know better) seems to think, this is not a restoration, there isn’t any original Bedford left. Images online show the original Bedford chassis sitting derelict in a yard.
So this is basically a 7.5 ton Fiat (Iveco) truck, onto which has been attached a heavily rebuilt Duple bodyshell concealing luxury camper van innards. An incongruous and ugly combination to me, but I’m biased.
As for your ZF question, I don’t know. Iveco, like many large truck and bus manufacturers, source gearboxes from ZF, so it’s very possible, especially if it’s an automatic. But without any knowledge of the original vehicle – or subsequent changes made as part of the rebuild – it’s impossible to tell.
If you want to pursue this you could contact either the original vendor (Mr Bell) or WVM coachworks, who are advertised on the vehicle. Best of luck!
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No offence taken, Roddy, I was just trying to show off what little knowledge I have.
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LOL @ DonDon.
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🙂 I thought you probably would.
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From the angle shown in that photo, it looks like an ice-cream van.
Presumably the red flag is not stuck on. It must be in the background?
You are right about the wheels being too small.
Will it need a satellite dish?
Until someone tells me I a wrong, I am still betting on the transmission being a ZF.
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Briefly, back in the 80s, I worked for ZF in Friedrichshafen. Just at the time when they started to collaborate with Iveco.
My job was to translate the “English” of Iveco’s Italian engineers into an English that the German engineers could understand.
Never has my Higher Latin been so useful.
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Admittedly, volare and cantare did not not come in to it. The texts were more to do with planetary gears and input shafts.
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Flying and Singing?
Nope, I expect they didn’t, DonDon.
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LOL…
See, and you thought it was a waste of time.
Just imagine what Jacob Rees Mogg could do…
No.
Don’t.
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tris, I never though Latin was a waste of time. I did it voluntarily (had a crush on the teacher).
But I just never imagined I would have to translate Italian English into German English.
I’ll bet Jacob Rees Mogg wouldn`t know the difference between a cap screw and a flange face.
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Well, DonDon, when you have a crush on the teacher, no subject is a waste of time.
🙂
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No thoughts about No. 1 ? Apparently an ancient stone column with a radio or TV antenna on top?
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Danny, Pic 1 was dealt with upthread by Alex Montrose. It is a Masonic tower called Modlach Tower.
It is in Glen Esk, somewhere north of Dundee.
The photo was sent in by Dave Albiston.
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Thanks DonDon. I logged on late and went through the postings quickly. Apologies to Alex for overlooking his comment. Interesting! (Google image did not yield info.)
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