163 thoughts on “ALL OUR YESTERDAYS”

  1. Pic 6 – Rationing, 1940s/50s? real eggs as opposed to powdered? Pic 14 – RMS Queen Elizabeth. Can’t see no 15. Pic 17 – Chanteuse, Kathy Kirby – Secret Love. Pic 19 – Joe Brown (l) & Billy Fury (r) – early 60s.

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    1. Andi……I had ruled out the Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth, because I’ve seen the Queen Mary in Long Beach (California) and it has three funnels. Now I see that the Queen Elizabeth had half the boilers of the Queen Mary and only two funnels.

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          1. Ed……I see that “Dime” and “Dollar” also serve in an American version of “In for a penny, in for a pound”…….which becomes “In for a dime, in for a dollar.” Of the modern American coins, only the “dime” still serves (in its modern spelling) as the name of the ten cent coin, which in the eighteenth century was “disme”, but pronounced “dime” apparently.

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            1. Just off the top of my head, Danny, some etymology: disme would be oldish French for decima (googles frantically) pars, i.e., Latin for tenth part, i.e., one tenth. Cf. “decimal”… So, in mod. French that would be dîme, with the circumflex telling us that there used to be a letter s in there, so the vowel is long (this is an oversimplification). Oddly enough, la dîme in French means the tithe, which is – now this is really spooky – the payment of the tenth part of your crop or your income to support the clergy. It’s not really that spooky, actually, I was just having you on: both “tithe” and “dime” go back to the old proto-Indoeuropean roots that give us ten, decem, dix, diez, dez, decade, dieci, tio, dekad, deset, десет, zehn, десять (d’esyat’) … I could go on, but I’m sure everyone would much rather I didn’t.

              Oddly enough, Russian for “tithe” is десятина (d’esyatina). Who’d a thunk it, eh? Perhaps the Bulgarian chapter of Munguinworld could confirm that the Bulgarian for “tithe” is десятъца (desyatitsa), and check my transliteration while he’s at it.

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              1. Ed…..thanks for that! At some point, I had looked up “disme” and got as far as a reference to an “Old French” word meaning a tenth part or tithe. I don’t think that the “disme” spelling on the American 10 cent coin continued beyond the 18th century, but the very first American coins minted in 1792 and for some time thereafter were identified with the denomination “disme.”

                As for all those “d” words that relate to tens or tenths, I noticed “dix.” That brings to mind one possibility for the origin of the term “Dixie” to refer to the states of the southern American confederacy of Civil War times. “Dixie” may have been related to widely circulated ten dollar bank notes issued by the Citizens’ Bank of Louisiana in New Orleans. Here’s what Wiki says:

                “The word “Dixie” [may refer] to currency issued first by the Citizens State Bank in the French Quarter of New Orleans and then by other banks in Louisiana. These banks issued ten-dollar notes labeled Dix on the reverse side, French for “ten”. The notes were known as “Dixies” by Southerners, and the area around New Orleans and the French-speaking parts of Louisiana came to be known as “Dixieland”. Eventually, usage of the term broadened to refer to the Southern states in general.”

                PS……It’s also possible that Dixie came from the name of Jeremiah Dixon, one of the men who surveyed the Mason-Dixon Line, which symbolically separated North from South.

                Wiki: “Dixie” [may be] derived from Jeremiah Dixon, a surveyor of the Mason–Dixon line, which defined the border between Maryland and Pennsylvania, separating free and slave states subsequent to the Missouri Compromise. Evidence shows that ‘Dixon’ became ‘Dixie’ in a children’s game played in New York back in the 1840s.”

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                  1. Ed…….I’ve read the “Dix” banknote story several times. It was apparently a trusted banknote that was widely used in southern commerce. Also a popular collectors item among paper currency collectors today.

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              1. Tris…..Interesting that as far as I know, every other US coin ever made has been identified as a particular number of “cents” or as a fraction of a dollar……such as the “five cent” coin or the “quarter” coin. Only for the ten cent coin did they decide on a name from Old French. It was the very first US coin denomination minted (in 1792), so maybe they just changed their minds about coin naming. Although, the name has stuck for the ten cent coin for 228 years. 😉

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      1. Danny, I only saw Queen Elizabeth once, many years ago when in my rebel without a clue days I hitchhiked into Southampton. My Mum, on the other hand, was at the launch of Queen Mary (which I never saw) in Clydebank.

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        1. Andi……..A big event! I see that King George and Queen Mary officiated at the launching. (And Queen Elizabeth at the launching of her namesake ship.) Some years ago, I saw the Queen Mary in California. It’s owned by the city of Long Beach. Impressive to see at the dock, but apparently in seriously deteriorated condition after 50 years and many different operating companies have mostly failed to turn it into a money-making tourist attraction.

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        2. I was at the launch of the QEII when I was a lad – September 1967 – I’d have turned 12 in the July. Very memorable. I remember in particular the blue woodsmoke rising from the slipway from the friction, mingling with the red dust from the rust thrown up by the huge chains used to stop the ship crashing into the other side of the Clyde from the shipyard (John Brown’s), and the folk watching it (for free) from the other side of the river running like hell to get away from the wave the launch sent over the other bank. My father got the tickets to the event from my great-uncle John, who had been called out of retirement from his job as a master plumber at the yard to help get the work finished. John himself didn’t want to go, as I recall; too much sadness involved for him. End of an era, that sort of thing, and economic catastrophe looming.

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          1. Ed…..How nice to have had the opportunity to experience that! The end of an era for sure.

            The last American liner was the SS United States, launched in 1952. It had lots of celebrity passengers, including notably Grace Kelly and the Prince. It’s now docked on the Delaware River in Philadelphia, clearly rusting away.

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    2. Re eggs, I reckon it was probably around 1950. I have a memory of my mother coming home and saying, “The shops are full of eggs!” I think that until then we were rationed to 1 egg per person per week.

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      1. I was struck by the price of tuppence three farthing. Nowadays you can get an ordinary egg at the supermarket for 15p or 20p, or 1/6 (a shilling and sixpence – individually a bob and a tanner) or 2 bob (a florin to you, Danny) in old money.

        And to think the populace resisted decimalization because they thought it would be too complicated.

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          1. I do too, DonDon: I went with a friend and his ma to Lewis’s on Argyle Street to buy I can’t remember what, but they had set up wee booths here and there where you could hand in your old coins and get the equivalent back in the new.

            I should have mentioned to Danny that 1/6 would be said “one and six”, and that two and six equalled half a crown.

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              1. Thanks Marcia. Haven’t seen that in decades….”The new decimal money will be with us on D-Day”, according to the voice-over in Gran Gets the Point… The new money was with us for a couple of years before that and was used interchangeably with the old. Products were double-marked with old and new prices (e.g. 11p – 2/2d or 16p – 3/2d) from 1970 and every household was sent information including conversion tables. These were posted on the walls of shops for customers to use. The film gives the impression that it all happened suddenly on the one day. We knew it was coming for five years beforehand so it was no surprise. The old money was still accepted in shops for the rest of the year and by that time most of the old coinage had been withdrawn. The banks still took old coins well into 1972 even after the shops stopped accepting them. Given the potential for confusion, it all went relatively smoothly. Doris Hare was the grumpy old gran – better known as mum in On The Buses where she played a grumpy old mum. The mother was of course Patricia Driscoll – Maid Marion from Robin Hood. She was more used to Groats in the greenwood so you can forgive any confusion she may have had…

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              1. I seem to remember that fur coats (presumably among other things) were usually denominated in guineas, i.e., in units of 21/-, or £1.05 in new money. The reason for that, if I recall correctly from my vast erudition, was because some dotty English monarch or other revalued the sovereign (a gold coin equivalent to £1, i.e., 20 shillings or 20/-) to 21/- in celebration of some military or naval victory or other which I can’t be bother to peerlessly google.

                A crown was a coin worth 5/-; it dated back to 1707, when it replaced the existing English crown and the Scottish dollar. That is why that even in my young days you could still hear people in Scotland refer to the half crown (2/6) as a half dollar.

                Danny, in Scotland (possibly the whole UK?) pre-decimalization, pre-1948 silver coins, which actually contain silver, are much sought after for putting into Christmas puddings. The reason for that is so that the lucky recipient of a slice of Christmas pud containing a silver sixpence can obtain a lucky silver coin at the price of a cracked tooth. Is there any such custom in the USA? I never thought to ask.

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                1. Ed…….As I said, I’ve collected American coins and dabbled in English coins. Although gold and silver coins are now minted by the US Mint for bullion use and for commemorative coins sold to collectors at a premium pricexx, silver coins as circulating currency were discontinued in the States in 1964. So years later, by the time I was aware of pre-1965 silver coins, they had disappeared from circulation and were highly prized by collectors, and by the general public as gifts and souvenirs. (Sometimes worth ten times their designated face value when silver bullion prices were high.) So they were valued as gifts, although I’ve never heard of hiding them to be found in such as a Christmas pudding.

                  HOWEVER, speaking of teeth, we do have a tooth fairy tradition, and I had a grandfather who for years and years since his youth had collected coins. The US Mint produced large numbers of silver dollars over many years to back up the paper “Silver Certificate” notes of the time, and so silver dollars were freely available until all the silver coins left circulation after 1964. So over the years when my grandfather cashed his Social Security check at the bank, he would always ask for a few silver dollars. He amassed a nice date and mint mark collection over many years, and even by my time, always had a supply of silver dollars for my tooth fairy rewards. So at a time that other kids were getting a dime or a quarter or maybe even a half dollar (all minted in base metal) for their baby teeth left under the pillow, I was getting SILVER dollars from the tooth fairy……3o years or more after silver coins had disappeared from circulation. It was a great deal……until the teeth ran out of course.

                  I also came to know about the British practice of buying and selling posh merchandise at places like Christie’s and Sotheby’s for example, with the prices denominated in 21 Shilling Guineas……effectively a 5% luxury surcharge compared to a price denominated in pound sterling. (Presumably they don’t actually demand that you pay for the merchandise in Guinea coins. 😉 )

                  Knowing this from my coin collecting days, I wowed a group of people at a party who were puzzling over a so-called intelligence test analogy question. You had to fill in the missing item in the analogy, and it had my friends stumped.

                  The question was: POUND is to GUINEA…..as TWENTY is to [ ? ]

                  I quickly answered TWENTY-ONE. The correct answer of course.

                  You can imagine how that impressed a group of Americans who knew nothing of British coinage, and who think of a pound as a unit of measure, and guinea as a type of fowl.

                  Interesting about the English Crown and Scottish Dollar! As for “Crown”……..apart from the name of a certain specific denomination of coin……it’s also used generically by “World Crown” collectors to refer to any large silver coin containing about one ounce of silver. Crown collecting is popular among collectors, and in America the crown sized coin is the traditional silver dollar minted in 90% (900 fine) silver alloy from 1794 to 1935. Later crown sized American silver dollars were issued (briefly) in 40% silver alloy, and thereafter in base metal. The American silver dollar is descended from the “Spanish Dollar”, which circulated widely in colonial America. No coins were minted by the US government until 1792, under authority of the new federal constitution. Before that, foreign coinage and privately minted coins were used.

                  Wiki: “The Spanish dollar was the coin upon which the original United States dollar was based, and it remained legal tender in the United States until the Coinage Act of 1857.” World Crown collectors include the Spanish dollar and the American silver dollar as “crown” coins.

                  I found this about “World Crown Collecting”:
                  “As with many areas of coin collecting, there are no specific requirements dictating what constitutes a crown. There are, however, some widely accepted standards.
                  It’s numismatically agreed that world crowns generally )measure between 35 millimeters and 42 millimeters in diameter. Silver coins that are categorical crowns also generally weigh around one ounce, give or take a few grams. In most cases, a crown represents the unitary denomination of the nation in which it was produced, such as the Canadian silver dollar, the Mexican peso, and the Japanese yen. In this sense, United States silver dollars, such as the Morgan dollar and Peace dollar, also qualify as crowns.
                  While the term “crown” is often used in a generic sense, the crown, in origin, is a British silver coin that arose in the 16th century and originally had a value of five shillings. Today, a British crown is worth pounds.
                  Many world mints have since patterned their largest circulating silver coins (and, more recently, copper-nickel coins) off the model of the British crown.”

                  And Wiki says this about the British Crown:
                  “The British crown, the successor to the English crown and the Scottish dollar, came into being with the Union of the kingdoms of England and Scotland in 1707. As with the English coin, its value was five shillings.
                  Always a heavy silver coin weighing around one ounce, during the 19th and 20th centuries the crown declined from being a real means of exchange to being a coin rarely spent and minted for commemorative purposes only.
                  Crowns were minted a few times after decimalisation of the British currency in 1971, initially with a nominal value of 25 pence. However, commemorative crowns issued since 1990 have a face value of five pounds.”

                  In America, during the time that coins were minted in gold and silver, dollar coins were never widely used in commerce. The silver dollar was a big coin that was much too heavy to carry comfortably in your pocket, and the gold dollar coin (usually called a dollar gold piece) was so tiny it might get lost in the seams of your pocket and was too light to notice that you’d lost it.
                  Later, base metal dollar coins have been unpopular for other reasons.

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                    1. Tris……The gold dollars are pretty little coins. Although larger denomination gold coins were minted for regular circulation from 1794 to 1932, the dollar gold piece was too small to be practical for commerce. It was only minted for 40 years…….from 1849 to 1889. Today, you often see them as jewelry, in a gold bezel, on a gold chain, worn around the neck as a pendant necklace.

                      Hard to imagine how tiny they are……. 13 mm diameter, almost exactly 1/2 inch. The smallest US coin ever minted. Picture is about 10X magnification.

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                    2. Tris……The face on the obverse (“heads” side) of the dollar gold piece does not represent an actual person. The dollar gold piece, like all American coins before 1909 (when the Lincoln cent came out) used a design with a symbolic representation, usually called “lady liberty.” The figure of a woman as lady liberty takes many forms, sometimes a full head and sometimes a full figure seated. The reverse (“tails” side) of lady liberty designs often feature an “American” eagle.

                      The popularity of the Lincoln cent in 1909 (100th anniversary of his birth) led to the modern use of historical figures (deceased) on coin designs……currently, the Jefferson “Nickel”, the Roosevelt Dime, the Washington Quarter, the Kennedy Half Dollar, and various base metal one dollar coins (starting with Eisenhower) that people consistently refuse to use…..LOL.

                      The design on the silver half disme of 1792 is one of the earliest examples of lady liberty. While it was probably intended as a pattern piece (a test coin of a new design), it did achieve some public circulation. Later designs used a “seated liberty” motif. The silver five cent coin called the Half Dime was discontinued in 1873, in favor of the larger nickel alloy five cent coin that had been minted since 1866. Ever since then, the five cent coin has been colloquially called a “nickel.” The silver half dimes were small coins (15.9 to 17.5 mm over the years), but it’s still not as tiny as the one dollar gold piece (13mm).

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                    3. Thanks, Danny.

                      Of course, on all our coins in Scotland, the head of Lizzie is obligatory. As of course, it is on English banknotes.

                      Thankfully Scottish notes are not obliged to carry her face.

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                    4. Tris……..Yes, the difference here is that you have to be dead to appear on a coin or stamp or paper currency note….LOL. Interesting that Liz ‘s picture is not required on Scottish banknotes.

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                    5. Nor Northern Irish ones, Danny. I guess for obvious reasons, but they issue their own banknotes too.

                      Since the new coinage, of course there has only been one monarch, but in the old currency there were coins circulating with George VI, (none of Edward VIII becasue he was only on the throne for a few months and never crowned), George V, Edward VII, and even, I’m told, the occasional Victoria.

                      Cach money is used less and less here. Most payments in shops are electronic. We are miles behind Scandinavia in this, but COVID has pushed us along a bit.

                      No one wants to touch money any more. (As it goes my gran used to tell me how filthy money was… and it’s true. You have no idea who had it before or what they did with it.)

                      Now people are wary of even touching the keypad on the card reader, so purchases up to £45 can be made without putting in numbers, or with your phone.

                      In a few years time, like cheque books, I suspect that notes will all but have disappeared.

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                    6. Tris…….Same here! (Except maybe for entering your numbers by phone.) We have no-contact transactions to avoid contact with coins and currency……for example, ordering carry-out food and paying for it online from your computer or smart phone. Some places then offer no-contact delivery to your home, or if you’ve paid online and pick it up at their location, you’ve still avoided the card reader and keypad. Many places offer no-contact pick-up too. You drive to the place and park in a designated area. Then use your phone to call inside, and they bring your order out and leave it on or in your car without hand-to-hand contact.

                      Yes, no doubt coins and paper currency will become a thing of the past. I rarely see cash being used here anymore…..even before Covid. Some of the old silver and gold coinage was beautiful though, back in the day. That was WAY back of course. 😉

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                    7. Bet old Big Ears is far from happy. One day, maybe, he would have been entitled to have his ugly face all over the currency… and now when he does, no one will see it.

                      Some currency designs were indeed nice… others not so much.

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                  1. There is town called Dollar in Clackmannanshire.

                    On a wall at a road junction a few miles outside the town, some joker painted an American dollar sign with an arrow pointing in the appropriate direction.

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                    1. Some Munguinites in the farther-flung reaches of the planet may not be aware that Dollar has a posh private day & boarding school called Dollar Academy, one of the leading educational institutions of its kind.

                      Despite its superficial resemblance to Trump University, any suggestion that its sole purpose might be the accumulation of $$$ is purely coincidental.

                      Similarly, the Trustee Savings Bank deals in real currency, not Monopoly money.

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            1. For me, the fascinating thing is that decimalization was prefigured back in the 1890s, when they introduced the florin (two-bob bit).
              One tenth of a pound (twenty shillings), later interchangeable with the 10-pence coin.
              That introduction was deliberate. It was the first step towards decimalization.

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        1. Ed…….I’ve collected coins (mostly American) and have only a passing acquaintance with the old English currency……pounds, shillings and pence. But things like groats, florins, guineas, crowns, sovereigns, etc, etc are hard to keep straight……not to mention mysterious things like a bob or a tanner. It seems that the sum of 3 pounds, 12 shillings and 6 pence was written £3-12-6, BUT that the sum of 12 shillings, 6 pence (with any pounds) was normally recorded as 12/6.

          I can’t imagine what kind of mechanical and digital machines were used for financial accounting and record keeping.

          From your comment, I just now understood what had seemed to me confusion about whether “p” or “d” is the symbol for a penny. Now I realize it’s both! A “p” for new pence and a “d” for old pence. BUT……why did they not use “c” for the new penny? After decimalization, the penny became a “cent”……a “one hundredth part” of the unit pound. In America, it was always officially a “Cent”…….a hundredth part of the unit dollar………but the old British term “penny” remained in use for the coin, and has persisted for over 200 years.

          Anyway, in America, the cent was also called a penny; whereas in Britain, the old penny was a penny but not a cent, while the new penny is both a penny AND a cent. SOOOO…….why not use “c” as the symbol for the new penny? Because it would be confusing? Well not nearly as confusing as calling the old penny “d”…….from a ROMAN coin.

          We Americans DO try to show you the way! Our Mr. Jefferson was quite insistent that the new republic would employ a decimal currency. (He did less well on weights and measures of course.)

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          1. LOL, true, Danny.

            I think that the film shows the resistance of the older generation to change, and certainly to anything that sounded foreign (like cent).

            Perhaps Canadians, New Zealanders and Australians were less likely to be scared of change or “foreignness”. Brits … not so much.

            Of course hardly a single one of them questioned why a “penny” was symbolised by “d”. It had ever been thus and they wanted to it ever be thus.

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            1. Tris…….people certainly resist any change in whatever they’re familiar with. 😉

              So the Americans have used the word “penny” for more than two hundred years now, just because that’s what the British have always called it. Even though as far as I know, it was always officially a “cent” in the USA, and has been identified as such even on the earliest US coinage.

              So then the question is…..where did the name “penny” come from? So I Googled it and found that it comes from Old English:

              “It is derived from the Old English pening, penig, penning, and pending, Middle English’s peni, Northumbrian penning. Before those there was the Old Norse penningr, Swedish pänning, Danish penge, Old Frisian panning, Old Saxon pending, Dutch penning, Old High German pfenning, German pfennig.”

              “The original British penny was worth 1/240th of a pound sterling (now it is 1/100th of a pound). When the first United States one-cent coin was minted in 1793, people just continued to [informally] use the British term to refer to it in everyday speech.”

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              1. Interesting, Danny.

                I knew that the Germans used pfennig and 100th of a Mark, up till when they introduced the Euro and its cent.

                It didn’t occur that it was related to the penny.

                Another lesson.

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                1. Tris….For me too. I guess I’ve heard the word pfennig, but never really thought about it. It surprised me when I first noticed that the one cent coin was never officially called a penny, and the term does not show up in more than two centuries of one cent coin designs.

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            2. Ah yes. The d was for denarius / denarii, from the Latin name for a particular silver coin, as I am sure Munguinites are already aware. Its modern-day equivalent, etymologically anyway, is the dinar, which was the currency used throughout the former Yugoslavia, but now it’s just Serbia and North Macedonia which retain it. Currently, Algeria, Bahrain, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya and Tunisia use dinars too, but quite a few other countries have used dinars in the not-too-distant past. Wikipedia tells us that the name was adopted from the Latin by the Umayyad Caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan in 696 or 697 (77 A.H.) and applied to a gold coin which thereafter entered circulation throughout the Islamic world.

              Anyone who has any and wants to give them a good home may forward them to me care of Tris.

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  2. Looking at pic 13 – it’s at a dockside but the background buildings are not of Scottish type, so maybe England and it’s got to be the Liverpool Overhead Railway – I think. I’d love to have seen it but, if I had, that would make me even older than I am.

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  3. Yeah, I can’t see Pic 15 either.

    Mind you, I struggle to recognize one end of a bus from the other.

    Same goes for trams, which I rely on every day just to get to work.

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      1. Maybe Roddie has a beginner’s guide to identifying buses, like my 60-year-old trainspotter’s ‘what to look’ for illustration. (The illustration is 60, that is. The trainspotter can be any age.) In my case, until subjects like Pics 8 and 17 became more interesting and 36-22-36 more statistically vital than 4-4-0 or 2-6-2.

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          1. Are you that young and innocent, Tris, that yo don’t remember when pin-up girl captions always gave what was known as their ‘vital statistics’ – ie bust, waist, and hip measurements. Also so used to e a standard of beauty contests (Miss World etc) till feminism decreed hat such information made these events even more of a cattle market.

            Or was it the steam engine wheel configuration that stumped you? For example, 2-4-2 indicated two bogey wheels at the front, four driving wheels, and two trailing wheels. in profile, this appeared as o-OO-o.

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      2. DonDon, You can only post a photo if it is available on the internet. If it is in Wikipedia, for example, right click on the image and the browser will offer an option to ‘Copy image location’ or similar. You can then paste that link into your comment.

        If it is one of your own photos then you have to place it somewhere where it is accessible. I have recently started using DropBox. Place an image in your DropBox area and the Share function will give you the link that you can place in your comment.

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    1. Well, you’ll be happy to know that I have replaced No 15 with another bus, DonDon.

      I hope I haven’t duplicated this time, given the telling off I’ll get from a certain anorak. 🙂

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      1. [1] I put it down to the angle of my monitor deceiving me there. Closer inspection reveals my error in all it’s errorisitousness. {if not a word perhaps it should be}

        [2] Yes it is. { WordPress: what’s it like?}

        [3] AIUI The idea was to encourage foot passengers (without personal watches presumably) for Waverly Station to get a hurry on. Or somesuch.

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  4. # 10: The “Dime Store” lunch counters were very popular back in the day. The last American Woolworth’s closed in 1997 (Wiki says.)

    #2: Nice artistic rendering of Zion National Park! Zion is in southwestern Utah, just about 80 miles from Bryce Canyon. There was a time some years ago when you could drive your car down the Zion Canyon floor and see the gigantic rocks, all the way to The Narrows, where you could walk the Virgin River.

    Then the nature-loving environmentalists and self-appointed saviors of the Planet Earth got the road closed to automobiles; so now you have to ride shuttle buses. But the shuttle buses were out of service due to Covid, and are now open on a limited schedule that requires advance reservations. But the Virgin River is still there. However, the National Park Service has announced a toxic Cyanobacteria bloom in its water, so the Virgin River is now closed. But IN THEORY Zion National Park is still there and would be nice if there were a way to see it. 😉

    I blame Donald Trump and find solace in the fact that the election is only five weeks away.

    Walking the Virgin River through The Narrows of Zion……back in the day:

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      1. Tris…..For people who don’t want to get their shoes wet, there’s a paved walkway beside the river for the first mile into the Narrows. That’s more my style…..LOL. High walls of rock in a narrow canyon make a really spectacular experience.

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  5. “The Race to Berlin”

    Secretly there was no “Race to Berlin”, for various reasons of high policy.

    It was just as easy to keep the ordinary punters in the dark then about true reasons for things as it is today – as at least some of us can see regarding current events.

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  6. 19 Joe Brown and Billy Fury. The opening bars of Joe’s “Picture of You” conjure up early 1960’s to me like few other records and really stir the sap. Billy Fury was one of a stable of singers managed by one Larry Parnes (?) All had rousing stage names eg Marty Wilde, Duffy Power.
    Once saw, in a Portuguese shop window, a cassette featuring a black clad singer called Nelson Ned who wd have been an ideal addition to that set. Alas shop had shut for the day so cdnt buy it.

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    1. Larry Parnes was labelled Mr Parnes, shillings and pence because of the way he financially screwed his proteges. Allegedly, he did have another interest in handsome young men but we won’t go into that.

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        1. Interesting. I hadn’t heard of him, or some of his artistes.

          At the end of the clip, it says that it didn’t go on into the 60s, but I think for a while Brian Epstein was pretty controlling and manipulative.

          Maybe the super-stardom of the Beatles and the fact that Lennon and McCartney wrote most of the stuff (and that’s how you got rich) put an end to managers like him.

          The one thing I noticed was that all the lads looked a bit older than the ages that they really were.

          Tommy Steele went on to be an actor/musical star.

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    1. When Petula Clark was a little girl and starting off in show business, she wanted to be Ingrid Bergman.

      Many years later, making a film for MGM, Ingrid Bergman visited the filming location and she met her hero.

      I couldn’t find the pic online, strange because it appears in some books about her, but here’s one of her on the Chips set with Peter O’Toole.

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  7. I thought #7 could be a Wren church in the City of London. But some of the spectators seem to be wearing German army helmets. And the provision of a railway to remove the debris looks very efficient. So I’m stumped.

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      1. If you can get a copy of the “The Doodlebugs” by Norman Longmate the V1 that hit the Gaurds Chapel is mentioned in his book. It is full of anecdotes from 1944 of the Flying Bombs and how people and authorities coped. It was the second time that Londonders and those in the South East sought shelter. One anecdote I remember from the book was when a queue of women failed to move from a outside a shop when the air-raid siren went. Getting food other than rationed food was a necessary chore and they were not to denied getting something . The queue went scattering a few moment later – the reason, a mouse ran down the queue.

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        1. LOL. Good story, Marcia.

          Maybe the poor mouse was thinking that if there was a queue there must be some decent grub around…

          But there’s a queue says Mr Mouse… Leave it to me, says Mrs Mouse!

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      2. Got it, Conan. The caption says: “The first flying bombs fell on London on 13-14 June 1944. Of many tragic incidents, the destruction of the Guards Chapel in at Wellington Barracks during a service was memorable. The menace was defeated by defensive measures, including a special balloon barrage, elaborate fighter patrols, and masses of anti-aircraft guns.

        “V1s almost ceased when the Pas de Calais area was overrun but then the V2, a long-range high-speed rocket, was being used. The last of these terribly destructive projectiles fell on England in March, 1945.”

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        1. When I lived in Stoke Newington in London in the 1970’s one of my neighbours used to tell us about the V1 and V2 rockets. One tragic incident was of a family that had a deep cellar that they sheltered in and they thought they were safe. A V1 hit a buiding further up from them but it burst the main water main and tragically they all drowned. So very sad.

          A documentary on the V1 attack on London;

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          1. Hard to believe that folk who endured that kind of thing find it an utter intrusion to be asked to wear a mask for 15 minutes while they wander around Tesco.

            The Blitz Spirit… aye right.

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  8. No 11 looks like the Lickey banker, 0-10-0T loco which assisted trains up the 1 in 37 gradient on the Birmingham – Bristol line. Certainly seems based on it if not an actual representation.
    The seaman looks like one of the Titanic’s officers but cap badge doesn’t fit.

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    1. Cairnallochy, you’re right about the Titanic. Thanks to your hint, I followed it up and he was John “Jack” Phillips, one of the ship’s two radio operators.

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  9. 10. My first “date” was in the Princes St Woolworth’s cafe. Tinned burgers in gravy with chips, a lime jelly with a wee dod of cream in the middle and a Fanta with two straws. Her name was Margaret and we were twelve…

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    1. Actually, I may be able to assist you. Given your love of repeats it may be one or other of the following making a re-appearance?

      or perhaps this beauty??

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      1. Not all buses are blue of course, some are red.. this one’s rather nice

        Lots of other buses in the Scottish Bus Museum, shall I continue?

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        1. I maybe shouldn’t admit it here, Roddy, but after living in Dunfermline for 25 years, and passing the bus museum thousands of times, I never went in. I have seen the buses on the road during open days. Sometimes stopped with the bonnet up 🙂

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      2. Roddy, I see the old Alexander’s coach has Auchengillan as its destination, I guess that was for the Scouts’ camp there on the way to Drymen. I think there’s still an outdoor centre there.

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    1. deerhill, far be it for me to tread on Roddie’s territory, but . . .
      . . . I suspect Pic 15 is an Israeli bus of American origin.
      It may be a veteran of the Six Days War, or Yom Kippur.
      It certainly isn’t in Dunfermline.

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      1. Yes, DonDon. I imagine you are right.

        But I was desperate to find a bus that Roddy could accuse me to duplicating… just for once.

        After all, a bus is a bus.. 🙂

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    2. The numberplate on that grey wreck begins with L and, if my eyesight does not deceive me, ends with an Л, which is L in Cyrillic script. That would suggest to me that the numberplate was from a place which used both scripts, and that would pin it down to the former Yugoslavia – but only if my eyesight does not deceive me.

      How the actual machine might have got to the former Yugoslavia (and, presumably, back again) from wherever it originated is a separate mystery, I suppose; I have no knowledge about such things.

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      1. edjasfreeman, again, I am trespassing on Roddie’s territory, but if that bus is not American in origin, it must be Russian. I still think it is Israeli, and a veteran of the Six Days War in 1967.

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        1. Ah – I just had another thought, DonDon. The other place I can think of where you might have wanted a numberplate with a letter in both Latin and Cyrrilic scripts could have been, say, the Soviet zone of occupied Germany post-WWII. If the machine itself is American, then we can imagine it belonging to the American military for use in, say, occupied Berlin, where the Л at the end would be for the benefit of the Soviets and the L would be for everyone else.

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          1. With the help of Mr G. it appears to be resident of the Egged Bus Museum, Holon, SE of Tel Aviv.

            Egged, one of the largest bus operators in the world

            “While the name probably doesn’t ring a bell , Egged (“אגד” or union, in Hebrew) is a bus cooperative which, besides being Israel’s largest bus company, is the one of the largest bus operators in the world. Egged employs 9,000 people and owns 4,000 buses that cover 1,038 routes and 3,984 alternate routes throughout Israel. It makes 44,957 daily trips, carrying around one million passengers over more than one billion kilometers each day.

            The collection of the Egged Museum , located in the city of Holon in the south-east of Tel Aviv, includes around fifty buses, the oldest of which dates from 1942, as well as two passenger cars.”

            What this vehicle is, I haven’t the foggiest. The radiator has some similarity to that of an early post-war David Brown tractor.

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            1. Well, there you go, Roddy. My trust in you wasn’t unfounded.

              You found the wee fellow in all his glory, and it’s good to know he’s resting in a museum after all those years of hard work.

              Thank you for your efforts!

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      2. I did wonder about that, Ed.

        Munguin says that he too, has no knowledge of buses.

        As far as land transport is concerned, he tends to summon his chauffeur… whose name by strange coincidence is, Tris.

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        1. Fair do’s, offhand I wouldn’t have known without some internet detecting. Text on side of adjacent vehicle (Rehovot) was the clue;
          [Rehovot (Hebrew: רְחוֹבוֹת‎) is a city in the Central District of Israel, about 20 kilometers (12 miles) south of Tel Aviv]

          More info from Egged Museum:
          Type: Multi- Purpose
          Model: Fargo
          In service from: 1940
          Body: assembled in Jordan
          Chassis: Fargo, USA
          Engine: diesel, 6 cylinders, England
          Number of seats: 21
          Registration Number: ת-461

          Was found in Beit Jalla, used for people transportation in the Kingdom of Jordan.
          After the Six-Day War was taken as war booty to Israel.

          Another nice pic here:

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