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MUNGUIN'S NEW REPUBLIC 
Now I am not saying that Covid19 is fake, because clearly a lot of people have died, but here is the other side of the COIN…follow the money.
The USA Covid scam unveiled
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Pic 2: Bristol Brabazon. A one-off.
Pic 3.: Lockheed Constellation. Well done, Aer Lingus!
Pic 7: Grace Kelly. Her grannie lived in Heppenheim, just down the road from me,
Pic 8: I used to love those lemon puffs!
Pic 10: HMS Amethyst returns to the fleet from up the Yangtse. The film was called “The Yangtse Incident” and starred Richard Todd.
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10 Vanguard in the background..
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Correct Gus. Both boats Clydebuilt. Fun fact – HMS Vanguard was the only UK battleship to be built with a sheered/flared bow, which gave it a very stable keel in rough sees. Previous RN doctrine dictated the obsolete need for the guns in A Turret to be able to fire directly across the bow at zero elevation – a complete throw back to the pre-dreadnought era of direct fire engagements. This meant that WWII RN battleships were very wet at the front in rough seas. It also had a transom stern which was unusual and which gave it a minute speed advantage. A saying in Defence is that it is easy to bring in a new idea, but it’s truly difficult to get rid of an old one.
There is a sort of connection with the Bristol Brabazon in that both were largely white elephants when they were constructed. Both being built as new technologies were effectively making them redundant. The development of jet passenger aircraft (by the UK), which was a contributory factor (among more than a few) in the Brabazon’s case and the maturing doctrine surrounding naval aviation and the rise of the carrier task group in the case of the Vanguard. Still, what a piece of engineering.
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DonDon……The Lockheed Connie was a great plane. Orville Wright flew in it.
Wiki: “On April 19, 1944, the second production Lockheed Constellation, piloted by Howard Hughes and TWA president Jack Frye, flew from Burbank, California, to Washington, D.C. in 6 hours and 57 minutes (2300 mi, 330.9 mph). On the return trip, the airliner stopped at Wright Field to give Orville Wright his last airplane flight, more than 40 years after his historic first flight. He may even have briefly handled the controls. He commented that the wingspan of the Constellation was longer than the distance of his first flight.”
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The Bristol Brabazon was classed as a commercial failure. It was a double decker with luxurious passenger accommodation. But it featured a lot of new technology which was transferred to the Bristol Britannia which was hugely successful and had a long career.
The aircraft shown was the prototype which made many demonstration flights.
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Yes,Bristol 167 Mk1,the Brabazon,called after the Chairman???of the post war aviation committee.
The jet age was coming and it was still in the empire mode, to take over from the seaplanes.
The turboprop engine was being developed as the range of pure jets was a concern.
The britannia and the vanguard followed on.
The comet was the first pure jet in service but was grounded by metal fatigue/cracking around the square passenger windows,Boeing had the 707 modified to oval windows and won the orders.
I’ve got an old british civil aircraft register and it doesn’t appear in it,the britannia models do
The CAA site has a redacted registration document with the de-registration blanked.
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Well done DonDon.
Still waiting for Dani to get back to me.
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Nos. 6 and 7:
New Hampshire has its famous state motto “Live Free or Die,” and the rock formation in the White Mountains called “Old Man of the Mountain.” Both have appeared on a US postage stamp, a state commemorative US coin, auto license plates, road signs, tourist brochures, postcards, commercial ads, etc. Sadly, the old man’s face fell off the mountain on May 3, 2003.
Before and after:
As of 2018, he was still on the New Hampshire license plates:
Grace Kelly seemed miscast as the wife of sheriff Will Kane in High Noon. She didn’t really look like an old west school marm, and she was about 28 years younger than Gary Cooper.
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It’s a shame about the Old Man’s Face. Sad when something like that goes, forever.
Grace Kelly looked more like a princess than a school marm!
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Tris….My thoughts exactly.
I’ve never been entirely sure what a “marm” is exactly, but they always show up in Westerns. 🙂
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LOL!
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Danny, did she fit with Bing Crosby in High Society?
Or, for that matter, with Rainier III Grimaldi?
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Danny, did she fit with Bing Crosby in High Society?
Or, for that matter, with Rainier III Grimaldi in Monaco?
As for Gary Cooper, it always disturbs me that he was name-checked as early as 1930 in Irving Berlin’s classsic jazz number “Puttin’ on the Ritz”,
Possibly the last of his screen appearances was in “The Wreck of the Mary Deare”, 1959, which starred Charlton Heston. Remarkably enough, it was British film.
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DonDon…….Bing Crosby was only a couple of years younger than Gary Cooper. She definitely made her movie career with older leading men. She was rumored to have had affairs with some of them. I just never saw her in the role of a school marm in the old west.
At least she was much nearer Rainier’s age.
High Society was a musical remake of The Philadelphia Story. She was the daughter of a wealthy Philadelphia industrialist, but she didn’t fit the part like Katherine Hepburn.
Gary Cooper’s screen credits go back to 1925. He was about the sixth choice for the role of Sheriff Will Kane in High Noon. John Wayne, Gregory Peck, Marlon Brando, Montgomery Clift, and Charlton Heston all turned it down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Noon
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1 Standard Vanguard.
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Jowett Javelin?
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They were quite similar but the Javelin had bulbous arches over the wheels while the Vanguard’s were inside the streamlined body line, so I think gus has it.
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Yes, you’re right.
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I think this body looks too narrow for a Standard Vanguard of that period. They had a rather “fat” profile. (They also has a very soft suspension and tended to roll around – something which struck me as a child, confirmed by reading in adult life.) My first guess was Jowett Javelin.
The loco in the last pic looks like a Midland Railway Stirling single, 4-2-0, 8′ driving wheels, fast and elegant machines for light loads but lacked adhesion on wet rail. The Caley single wheeler No 123 became legendary in the race to the north. The Midland didn’t believe in pampering loco crews – they must have envied – or perhaps sneered at – the softies on the North Eastern; Midland cabins remained the most spartan of all the companies’ right to the end and into LMS days.
What’s the battle wagon in front in the naval picture – doesn’t look like a King George V – ex WWI by any chance but looks a bit “modern” (it’s all relative….) ? Or American ?
We got out of class one day to see Brabazon flying over. Was the man Lord Brabazon of Tara ? (From the depths of the memory bank so may be complete rubbish.)
There are still some old style Dundee street nameplates in place, including streets running off Albert Square. Would love to sneak up and nick one for a souvenir,.
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Realise that if Midland Railway, may not be by Stirling; conversely if a Stirling loco, may not be Midland….
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It is, in any event, a beautiful locomotive.
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It is a Patrick Stirling single Cairnallochy, the eight-footer, but it’s a Great Northern loco from the 1884 series. These were tested to 85 mph pulling a light train. Stirling favoured singles for high-speed running and also built them during his time as Locomotive Superintendent at the Glasgow and South Western Railway, based in his native Kilmarnock. There’s another single driving wheel item in Pic 16 and probably of similar vintage. Built to last.
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According to my search on Google, Cairnallochy, the loco is Great Northern.
John may be able to answer your question about the naval pic.
And if we hear of a spate of road nameplates disappearing, I promise, Munguin’s lips are sealed!
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Suspected afterwards that if it were a Stirling loco, would be GNR. Have forgotten who designed the Midland “spinners” – perhaps too early for Johnston.
Perhaps embarrassingly, going through various old railway histories at the moment prior to a clear out so should have been able to check !
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The caption doesn’t add anything about the other vessels in the pic, just a potted version of the HMS Amethyst story: “Enthusiastic scenes took place at Devonport on 1 November [1949] when the First Lord of the Admiralty, the First Sea Lord, and other senior Naval Officers welcomed HM Frigate ‘Amethyst’ on her return from Far Eastern waters.
“While taking supplies to the British Embassy in Nanking, she had been fired on in the Yangtse by Communist batteries. Crippled and aground, with 17 of her company, including her commander, killed, and 20 wounded, she was stranded for months.
“Then, under Lt-Cdr JS Kerans, she slipped her moorings one night and escaped. This triumph of daring and navigation, as the First Sea Lord said, ‘Fired the imagination o the free people of the world’.”
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HMS Vanguard – see my reply to the first post of Gus1940. Have a look on Wikipedia – a superb piece of architecture.
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HMS Vanguard – see my reply to the first post of Gus1940. Have a look on Wikipedia – a superb piece of architecture.
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5 Originally thought this was looking along the High Street as recognised the now Mecca bingo hall in the distance. However the church spire was not showing behind it if this was a correct assumption. Also the street to the left would be Union Street but the buildings at the top of the street don`t match even allowing for a possible rebuild to the old Royal Hotel – the other side where the Trades bar is unlikely to be changed. Then if you assume the view to the Mecca is North South not East West this puts it in the old Overgate. Unfortunately my earliest recollections of this is when I was in school shorts, my parents would be familiar with this sight unfortunately neither of them are still with us like this view in the photograph.
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The place of course is Dundee.
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I don’t know where it is either, James. I was hoping someone could tell me.
Late 40s or early 50s I’d have said. I thought maybe off the Hawkhill?
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Pic 12 is, of course, The Beatles. With Billy J. Kramer in front.
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Yep. Indeed, Dave.
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No 1
No wonder they had a history of leaking water,the Standard Vanguard.
No 5.
The 2 austins are both YJ,registered in Dundee, The car in the lane could be a Triumph.
Nice period picture.
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Oh, is it that time already? (Yawns). Well, here we go, Pic 1 with, as Gus pointed out, a Standard Vanguard, is Glesca – most likely Garngad or Blackhill in the 60s. I think that’s Jimmy, Peter, Wee Thomas and Bernadette 🙂 The funny motor-trike in Pic 4 is probably delivering beer, Shepherd Neame claim to be the oldest brewery in England. Pic 9 – looks like an Armstrong-Whitworth argosy of Imperial Airways, 1920s-30s. One was called “City of Glasgow”. Pic 13 – peever, beds or hopscotch, 1950s I’d say. Pic 14 – maybe the end of post-war sweet rationing as they seem to be queuing outside a confectioners. The names of the traders suggest it might be London’s East End but that’s a wild guess. Pic 18 – ration book, Ministry of Food leaflet, Union flag, victory newspaper – VE day pastiche. and I bet that’s meant to be a Woolton Pie.
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I think Pic.1 might be Craigendmuir Street, Blackhill andi. Just opposite the shops where they eventually installed a Police Office.
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That was a bit like locking the stable door after the horse had bolted, Alex 🙂
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Yeah, Blackhill, Alex.
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As always, Andi, a very impressive showing. The queues we indeed for the return of sweeties when rationing ended on 24 April 1949. The caption has no details on the location, but notes: “Queues like those shown became commonplace and shelves which had seemed over-stocked were quickly cleared. Chaos resulted. One after another, the sweet shops began to close their doors, their stocks exhausted. On 14 August sweet rationing was resumed – and sweets disappeared.”
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A bit like hand sanitiser now, John?
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This nearly came out yesterday as I have absolutely no idea what day it is most of the time. Not that I mind that!
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5 – The old Overgate
8 – Cream Puffs were okay but I couldn’t stop at a couple.
13 – The game was called “boxes” here in Dundee.
14 – There must be good sweets at that confectioner to have such a large queue. Maybe the end of sweet rationing in 1949 but then re-imposed later in the year on certain items due to shortages until 1953/4.
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Ah… thanks, Marcia. The Overgate!
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We called Pic 13 “beds”. There were 2 types, peever and ba’ beds. The peever was usually a shoe polish tin filled with sand or soil or sometimes it was a flat slab of marble from a broken table top – they were denser and slid better across the beds. You had to slide the peever into each bed in turn and dance up to retrieve it. Ba’ beds was more difficult, being played on a sloping pavement and you had to roll the ball and dance up the beds in sequence and pick up the ball while it was in the right bed. Step on a line or on a bed out of turn or miss the ball in the bed and it was “aloss” and your turn was over. One of these games it’s harder to describe that to actually play… I hadn’t seen these games for decades but during the recent lockdown I’ve noticed quite a few have adorned the local pavements. Fair takes you back…
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Kids, it seems were pretty inventive, before the net did everything for them.
I dunno, though. Maybe they still are and we don;t see it so much.
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The game was called Paldies in my neck of the woods and dirt filled shoe polish tins were also used. The invisible but omnipresent gender polis had designated it a girls game and as a boy you risked being branded a Jessie for playing it. Needless to say most of us conformed to the unwritten list of acceptable masculine pursuits lest our future prospects suffered.
It wisnae easy bein a bairn sometimes.
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It was a weird old world when you were labelled by what games you played, what books you read and which side you parted your hair.
But I think it’s never easy being a bairn, and we sometimes forget that.
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Pic4 Edinburgh Evening News used to have a fleet of these vehicles.
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Gus, it’s a 1951 Reliant Regent 750cc tricycle van apparently – basically a motor-trike with a body. Nothing like as suave as the later Reliant Robin, eh? 🙂
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Basically the same Austin Seven side valve engine and gearbox fitted .
The later Robins had the engine modified to OHV and increase power to 39BHP.
These later engines were sought after as the Austin engine only produced 23BHP and fitted the same engine mounting.
The sports car racing austins used them,even the Lotus early cars.
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Some of the Raleigh 3-wheelers had a transverse (like a Guzzi) sidevalve V-twin fitted, which bolted up yo the standard A7 gearbox.* I’ve just had a look in my vintage J.A.P. book and Raleigh doesn’t appear in the index, although this may be because the book stops at around 1930… D.
*There’s at least one A7 special that has one of these engines fitted to it.
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Were they electric, like milk floats, Gus?
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No the were identical to the one featured but were unpainted with the bodywork metal highly polished.
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I remember queuing with my mother for what would now be regarded as a tiny bottle of Concentrated Orange Juice on the ration card, so circa 52/53, at the shops.
I am pretty certain it was a chemist’s in the row of shops on Aikenhead Road at the junction with Curtis Avenue just round the corner from where we lived.
There was a butcher’s shop there too and a shop that sold tinned food and maybe fresh veg? Not really sure about the last one.
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Didn’t they have special orange juice for small children, presumably fortified with something?
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No. 1 is Blackhill in Glasgow; there are council houses in that style (1930s?) in various parts of Glasgow, but Blackhill was infamous… the story goes that there was a guy there who was so sick of having his place burgled that he put in bars and locks on all the windows, steel doors front and back, and everything else he could think of, and turned his house into a Glasgow version of Fort Knox so he could keep the burglars out.
So he goes to sleep when this is done, feeling safe and secure in his bed at last, but in the morning he wakes up to discover that he’s had a visit from the thieves in the night, and they’ve sliced up, rolled up, and carted away his lawn.
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LOL… You can’t keep a good thief down, Ed!
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The story goes that the kids fae Blackhill used to chase cars, barking and snapping at their wheels.
My guess is the engine in that one was still warm when the photo was taken.
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LOL…
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The MoF Conc.OJ was delicious – if only it was sill available. Funnily enough I also quite liked the Cod Liver Oil.
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EEEK. Still, it’s damned good for you.
That’ll make your mouth water!
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I remember drinking both the Orange Juice AND the Cod Liver Oil straight from the bottle.
Most un hygenic, but strangely satisfying.
I WAS under 10 at the time.
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Now it’s whisky you drink straight from the bottle….?
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Not had the opperchancity.
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Or should that be opporchancity?
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Who knows by this time of night it could be anything…
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Picture 19,
Could it be Hinge and Bracket?
Or Flanders and Swann.
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LOL LOL… close!
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Pic 19. Could they be they be the then Duchess of Gloucester and Marina, Duchess of Kent?
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Close, Alex. It is princess Marina but it’s her sister with her. Princess Olga of Yugoslavia.
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The picture of Marina and Olga – as always, it makes me wonder what the point of such people is, or rather, what the point is of their bizarre status and the overblown respect and deference that is supposedly due them.
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I must admit that I’ve always found it fascinating that they exist and that they are so lauded.
It’s the height of nonsense, but interesting.
There must be a bit of human nature that requires there to be someone “better” than us… It’s missing in me.
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If it’s genetic, then I must have the same mutation.
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They haven’t grown out of the dressing up stage of life, much like airmiles and brother dressing upas Admirals of the fleet.
Just reading about the Brabazon, cost £3 million in 1945-48,8 engines,broken up in 1953,weighed 130 old tons. the Brabazon 2 was never completed was to have Bristol Proteus turboprops,broken up when half completed.
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Sounds like the 1945 equivalent of HS2!
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