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A Tory MP, who says that Britain will be more global after Brexit, is kicking off this new Globalness by banning French and German wine from his Brexit party.

THAT global? I hear you say! Goodness, that is VERY global.

Only drinks from “the British Isles” will be permitted, says Andrew Rosindell, who seems not to know that the British Isles includes the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands (none of which were never in the EU) and, of course, the Republic of Ireland, which remains in the EU (not to mention Northern Ireland which is half in and half out).

He then spoils the utter Britishness of it (sorry Ireland) by saying that wine from the Commonwealth will be permitted…like any of them give a damn.

Only British food and music, though, will be allowed.

“We’ve got music from around the British Isles and singing and dancing from all parts of the UK and we’ve got a great British buffet with food from around the UK and English sparkling wine – nothing French or German but everything British and Commonwealth.

“We’re going to be celebrating in style and at 11 o’clock when it’s all done we’re going to be singing God Save the Queen and Rule Britannia. I think huge numbers will come. Everyone’s welcome.”

I hope that “everyone” includes all the homeless people because I dare say they’d be happy to eat anything that’s going and probably appreciate a nice glass of English wine.

He continues:

“This is a turning point in our history, whatever people’s views. We are going to have a bit of party but it’s a serious decision that the country’s made.

“We are evolving as a nation. We are going to be more global, we are going to be out there in the world again – Britain’s back.”

I can understand that Joe/Jo McBloggs might not understand that Britain never went away and was never NOT in the world, given that he or she may read the Express, the Mail or the Sun.

But you would think an MP might know that that was rubbish and that Britain, because of its size, was one of the leading countries in the EU and as such, because of the EU’s size and wealth, had a considerable amount of influence in Brussels and therefore also in the world.


It is unclear what Britain will become after it leaves the EU (which, in reality, will not be on Friday night, rather on 31 December this year) but it will certainly not be in the top ranks of the world’s nations. The UK will simply not have the economic clout.

As this article points out, Rosindell is really out of touch, even about something as British as the BBC.

In 2016 he put forward a motion in parliament to have the BBC play the national anthem at the end of every day, seemingly unaware that the BBC doesn’t end broadcasts at the end of the day, but shows repeats all night.

92 thoughts on “YOU COULDN’T MAKE HIM UP…”

  1. Ah the empire strikes back.
    I’m looking forward to all this global take over by the english.
    Having looked inside a BT router and found that it is made in China I suspect that along with Virgin all this equipment will continue to be manufactured in China.
    BT are still touting high speed internet at 18 Mb/s on copper cables to most people.
    Virgin on fibre are running in the high 80’s actual downloads, uploads are about a tenth of this.
    I gave up my hardly used landline when BT wanted £5 service charge to pay the bill of the rental plus £0.30 in calls bill.
    BT run EE and Plusnet I think, after selling off their own mobile service years ago.
    I’ve a pal still with them and thinks their service is poor but can’t change provider as the choice isn’t much better.
    Great news that Grant Shapps has found £500million to reopen the lines that were closed by the Beeching cuts. Comment from the north is that one line there will use up 60% of the budget. Add in the analysis that the final cost of HS2 can’t be predicted.
    The empire strikes back right enough.

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  2. I am inclined to say that if he drinks Scottish Whisky at this party, I hope it chokes him. However, as that would be uncharitable, I’ll add the proviso that I don’t mean fatally!

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  3. I wonder where the grapes come from for his englandland wine?. I know that global warming is taking place and that it is possible to grow grapes in the south of this little island.Your link on the LBC got me looking at Crossrail, that other big empire exercise now running 2 years late and hugely over budget.
    Was astounded to read that it will take FOUR minutes for the train to go from Paddington to Tottenham Court Road a distance of TWO miles, average speed is 30MPH, this from the Crossrail site. One little thing that worries me about this is that Bond Street station is between so unless the trains don’t stop there this heavy train is going to load up, accelerate, brake to a stop in 2 miles and do it in 4 minutes with another station between. Talk about False news.
    The Sky site on HS2 says the line is going to cost £106 Billion now and run between London and Glasgow, eventually, sometime around 2050.
    The estimated cost is to get it to Birmingham, 90 miles from London.
    Is it any wonder we get punters on the media telling us we’re world beaters when the media fills them with this FAKE information.

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    1. What I wonder is how France managed to criss cross the (far larger) country with high speed trains which, as far as I know came in on time and on budget back starting in the 80s.

      And for that matter, Spain, Italy and Germany.

      Not to mention the intercity trains in India and China. (In fairness not the local ones that are still pretty bad.)

      How can these countries manage it and the Brits can’m manage a little line 90 miles long from London to Birmingham.

      I wonder how many trillions it would cost to get to Glasgow… but then, I though… it’ll never happen. By the time they build that no one will be using electric trains. We’ll, or rather they’ll, be teleporting.

      Beam me up Scotty!

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    1. I think they imagine that they can go back to being the centre of the Empire. They didn’t care what the subsidiary countries thought of them. If they didn’t do what they were told by London, a gunboat was despatched.

      Back in your box, lesser beings!

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  4. In life I have always found if
    You have a group of people
    Being taken in a direction
    Some want and others being
    Dragged along it doesn’t take
    Much foot dragging for things
    To fall apart .

    The brextiteers can crow as much as they like but if you
    Don’t have all the people behind
    You it’s not going to work.
    And a lot of brexiteers are not
    In the world of work just idling
    There final few years in dreams
    Of the British Empire

    Wot won two world wars
    Feck sake

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    1. Aye, well, they keep on talking about us all getting behind the new European-free Britain… and Boris is going to have his union flag projected on to Downing Street and they’ll all be singing God Save the queen and rule britannia or something… And that will bring us all together.

      Nigel will be at their parliament, even drunker than usual, going BONG BONG BONG and pretending his Big Ben.
      Presumably Marc Frankoise will be Little Ben.

      Who cares really? I’m going to go to bed and keep away from the news for a few days.


  5. Oh, I could have so much fun with this.

    The BBC signing off every day with this: would be hilarious. It’s one of the three things that gets used as Scotland’s national anthem, the words are less racist than the English one, and it’s a much more cheerful tune than the other two, and you can dance to it – which is a key component of any decent national anthem imnsho – they should be cheerful and upbeat tunes, not dirges!

    And I really wish we had a bit more time to try to convince the brexit crowd that Beethoven was English, cos then someone would play Ode to Joy at this dumb party!

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    1. Splendid… and that’s a lovely arrangement but of course it would always be God Save Liz and her family of utter weirdos.

      Get the Daily Express to print a story saying that Beethoven has been found to be English and they’ll be right on it.

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  6. Mad. Quite, quite mad.

    I hope he won’t be permitting, sorry, allowing people to use words of French origin – er, with French roots at his party – um – that would leave only the ones with Germanic – oh dear – maybe Gaelic? No, that’s Indo-European too – is NOTHING truly British? Oh, right, Anglo-Saxon – oh – still no good, that’s Danish and German. Shocking! But God bless Her Majesty, isn’t she wonderful for her age, at least she’s English, very English – what? Her family’s German and she’s married to a Greek? Who let HIM into the country? He doesn’t have any skills!

    This is terrible, sorry, awful. And this party, it’s in London? Oops – Londinium – that’s bloody Italian! Crikey. It gets worse. They’ll have to be careful not to use any electricity that comes from France or the Netherlands or Belgium through one of those interconnectors. Maybe Norwegian electricity would be OK because they’re not in the EU? You’ll be telling us next that his supplier is EDF – no, silly, not the English Defence Force, Electricité de France, pardon my French, let me just go and wash my mouth out with Imperial Leather, they’re building that huge new nuclear reactor in England to produce electricity at 10 times the usual price, which is a bargain as anyone can see. Or is it the Chinese who’re funding it?

    Oh dear oh dear oh dear, I just noticed that the kitchen staff are using spreadable butter for the cucumber sandwiches – does he not know that 90% of that is made in the EU? Maybe 80%, but he’d better stop using it just in case. Perhaps something from Graham’s Family Dairy instead – does Scottish count as British? No? Anchor butter then – no, it doesn’t come from New Zealand any more, they moved all the cows over to England, to Salisbury Plain, where they can graze on the unexploded ordnance or something. Or whatever you call them in Real English.

    Barking. Quite, quite barking.

    Are those cucumbers Dutch?

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    1. CUCUMBERS…..YUCK!!! I would have thought that the idea of a cucumber sandwich was a joke. But then I saw a TV drama in which posh English people were having cucumber sandwiches with tea. So it must be a real thing. Perhaps a tea time extension of the perverse pride the English seem to take in their cuisine being considered more or less inedible by the rest of the world? Perhaps cucumber pizza is available in England?

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      1. LOL.

        I’ve always had a feeling that the upper classes always felt they had to prove that they were stronger than the rest of us by drinking tea (disgusting stuff) and eating such delicacies as cucumber (something with less taste it would be hard to imagine) sandwiches.

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        1. Ah, I like tea meself though not all the time, Tris – but I can’t be doing with those nasty T-bag perversions, has to be proper tea for me which is dead posh so I always drink it with my pinkie oot and a gingernut biscuit, maybe, though I don’t insist on Royal Doulton tea service because I don’t want to come over as all pretentious.

          Tea and coffee are like so many things (my auntie used to blame the War) in dear old Blighty; people got used to substandard and second-rate, so we’ve got tea and coffee that isn’t really, except they’re all supposed to be hot and wet, and sausages that have so little meat in them that the Europeans didn’t think we should call them sausages at all (oh the howls of outrage from all patriotic Englishpersons when that happened!). But now they’ll be able to eat and swill tea fannings and cylindrical meat-flavoured texturised sawdust with rusk to their little hearts’ content because they will be Free again from the tyranny of Johnny Foreigner and his legions of unelected Brussels bureaucrats and EuroMPs! Big Ben will bong spontaneously of its own accord for joy at 11 p.m. local time on Friday! Yaaaaaaaayyyyy!!!

          P.S. I still have some black armbands left if anyone is interested. Collection in person only, please.

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          1. Ed……I never tasted the pre-WWII varieties of course, but I’ve never figured out the American love for hot coffee or the British love for hot tea. I’m told they are “acquired” tastes, but how do you get past the gagging and retching (and scalding) while the acquisition process proceeds?

            Oddly though, I’m quite fond of the iced version of tea. Plain iced tea is still awful of course, but when you add a generous portion of sugar and a modest splash of lemon juice to a glass of iced tea, it’s transformed into a very tasty beverage.

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            1. I love coffee and to be fair, for my taste, it has to be fairly hot. Until recently coffee here was as ghastly as tea was in France. It seems to have got a little better more recently, but it is never strong enough.

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              1. Tris……Starbucks and such places have apparently transformed coffee in the states. Several dollars per cup now, it’s not even good ole American black coffee anymore. It’s called by various names, and as far as I can tell, generally comes with steamed milk and various flavorings and toppings. The coffee aficionados tell me that older Americans didn’t even know how to MAKE coffee, much less what it was supposed to taste like.

                Mostly I’ve never liked hot drinks of any kind. The possible exception might be what we call “hot chocolate,” although very little of a cup of hot chocolate is actually drinkable……namely the layer (no more than 40% of the total) between the hot stuff on top that blisters your mouth, and the dark layer of lukewarm chocolate sludge at the bottom.

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                1. Oh I don’t like any of these fussy coffees, Danny.

                  Straight black coffee which they call americano, I think.

                  I normally drink it at home made in a percolator.

                  I don’t much like hot chocolate.

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              2. Tris I worked in central London during the 70’s. We used to go over to France, get off the ferry and drive for 1/2 hour and stop in a village. In the local bar they would serve a cup of coffee that was an experience. You couldn’t get anything like it in London.

                Not sure that the Starbucks, Costas etc. can yet match it.

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                1. Oh no, there’s no comparison. My first stop in France every time is a café. By the end of the day there’s no chance I can sleep!!!

                  But coffee is better here than it used to be.

                  Still maybe after Friday it will just get worse again.

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            2. I’m not keen on iced tea, Danny, though I can see the attraction during America’s excessively hot, muggy and humid summers. Long Island iced tea, on the other hand, with the kick like several Moscow Mules… back in my drinking days, anyway.

              The Poles have a habit of drinking hot tea with sugar and slices of lemon – the lemon juice turns the tea clear, which is kinda cool. They drink it in winter in particular, I think; the lemon juice provides useful amounts of vitamin C.

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              1. Ed…..I’ve found that iced tea with sugar has a flat taste, but the juice of a generously sized wedge of lemon squeezed into it adds zest and transforms it into a much more delicious drink. If it tastes a little like lemonade, you’ve added too much.

                I looked up Long Island Iced Tea. It seems to contain most of the liquors known to man. 😉

                Dr. Richard Feynman……Nobel Prize winning physicist and Manhattan Project team member……wrote a book of reminiscences titled “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!”. The exclamation originated from a soirée at Princeton where the dean’s wife asked Feynman if he wanted lemon or milk in his tea. Not really knowing which was best, or more socially acceptable, he answered “both”. That was her reply.

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                1. I was halfway through a comment on acquired tastes – whisky, coffee – when I had to Google something to check I wasn’t talking bollocks because of acquisition, After confirming OK to continue, original comment could not be found. Blame acquired taste again? The result of many years trying to find out if my palate is more inclined to tangy Islay and Jura malts or the blander Talisker of my birth island?

                  Anyway, forgive me if a a garbled post is already up. I have to go and check if that Ardbeg has deteriorated since opening. My faither always taught me that whisky goes off as soon as you take the cork out.

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          2. Following your earlier mention of black armbands, I took some to the Inverness March and handed them out. one of the persons wearing one was interviewed by Japan TV, when he explained why he was wearing and it’s relevance to British democracy they were quite excited by this and thought it would definitely be transmitted.
            Where as I could only tell Russian TV that Scotland was a welcoming country and would not feel the need to strut the globe with non existing power, unlike some.

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            1. Oh wow… my little idea goes on Japan TV – I am gobsmacked, bowled over, and you could knock me down with a feather. Crumbs. Crikey. Wow!

              That’s just brilliant. Not because I thought of it, but because the message is getting out onto the international stage, and we will need all the international support we can get if (when) the Westminster regime does its damnedest to further sabotage our movement toward independence – which we all know it will.

              Good that you told RT that Scotland isn’t going to pretend to be a world-bestriding colossus, Aucheorn, which is of course true. I think that’s a pretty major difference between us Scots, Scottish independentistas in particular, and the little Englander / Tory / Eton-and-Oxbridge exceptionalists: we know exactly who we and our country are, and they don’t. They have delusions of Empire, delusions of grandeur … how else could the Usual Suspects claim, for example, that Germany needs the UK / England much more than England / the UK needs them, and that the European countries will be beating a path to their door begging to be let into the UK / English market after Brexit? Delusional. And it will still be all Johnny Foreigner’s vindictive fault when the Brit / UK / English economy starts swirling down the toilet pan in earnest. It will be particular fun if they have still not negotiated the necessary civil aviation treaties by the time Boris pulls the plug on negotiations. If he dares.

              If England (stereotyping alert!) were a person, it would have something like narcissistic personality disorder … the constant lying / false beliefs and self-delusion are all aspects of it. And living with a narcissistic partner is no fun at all, in fact dangerous to one’s health, both mental and physical. Divorce is the only cure for it.

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        2. Tris….I had always assumed that “pickles” (which I like) came about purely as a way to make cucumbers edible. But apparently the pickling of cucumbers in fact came about as a way to PRESERVE cucumbers, which spoil rapidly (I’m told.)

          So pickles are a chicken or egg issue. Why on earth did people bother to come up with a process to preserve something that no one should have wanted anyway?

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          1. I seriously dislike cucumber too. Oddly, in Russia they seem to like a kind of yogurty thing with bits of cucumber in. I suppose it’s what people are used to that counts. The differing culinary preferences prove, to my satisfaction, anyway, that humans are an omnivorous species.

            Big Macs contain slices of dill pickle. I always carefully remove them, when I still ate Big Macs occasionally, that is, and I am sure loads of other people do too. Ergo, McDonalds must be responsible for wasting hundreds of tons of the things each year.

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            1. Most conventional fast food burgers in America will have dill pickle slices on them. I prefer sweet pickles on burgers, but you almost never get them. Generally, I prefer sweet pickles and have never figured out the charm of dill, though a dill pickle spear with brisket or pulled pork at a barbecue joint is nearer the mark.

              Impossible to forget what goes on a Big Mac:

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        1. I’ve heard of parsnips, but never tasted one…..or seen one as far as I know.
          Sounds like something the English might make a tea sandwich out of. 😉

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          1. Parsnips are rather tasty – I like them chipped and roasted, or deep fried. They’re the root vegetable which Europeans used before potatoes were imported from South America. They are also very hard when raw, and difficult to cut, and a friend of mine who knows such things says they take a lot of effort to get out of the ground.

            Here’s a link showing what parsnippy products are available at Sainsbury’s supermarket:

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            1. I’m thinking maybe parsnips are a bigger deal in the UK than in the USA. I’ve never seen such parsnippy things in American grocery stores. Somehow I think I would pass on that parsnip and carrot soup.
              I’m suspicious of things that grow under the ground. Not everything is a potato…..or even a carrot. There are radishes and turnips. 😉

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            1. True, not even the English would make sandwiches out of them, Tris. To return to our sheep and without further circling the pot, as the French would say if only they spoke English, parsnips … I agree with Tris that boiled and mashed parsnips are foul. Bashed neeps the same, as far as I’m concerned, be they neep neeps or tumshie swedey neeps. Still, it’s no wonder the ancestors welcomed tatties with open arms and made of the parsnip a culinary rarity.

              Butter improves bashed neeps, tumshies, passeneips and tatties, as we all know, but – as Boris Johnson proves – faire words butter noe parsnips, verba non alunt familiam (= words do not feed the family), (John Clarke’s Latin/English textbook Parœmiologia, 1639).

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  7. Never heard of him before, but that also applies to most MPs, even our SNP reps. Googled him to find out more and that just confirmed the barkingness that Ed refers to. Extreme right-winger, but very good at keeping his hand in the till. What caught my eye was the note on expenses:

    At the beginning of the MPs expenses scandal The Daily Telegraph reported that Rosindell “claimed more than £125,000 in second home expenses for a flat in London, while designating his childhood home 17 miles away – where his mother lived – as his main address” and between “2006 and 2008 claimed the maximum £400 a month for food”.[47]

    In 2010, the BBC accused Rosindell of breaching Parliamentary rules by accepting subsidised overseas trips to Gibraltar and subsequently raising multiple Gibraltar-related issues in Parliament without disclosing the trips in the Register of Members’ Interests.[48]

    In the Parliamentary year, 2014/15, Rosindell claimed £170,000 in expenses. £144,000 of this, however, was accounted for as staffing costs.[citation needed]

    £400 a month for food?!? For someone already on about £80,000 a year!! And they have the brass neck to complain about benefit scroungers. What a shameless bunch of free-loading tossers.

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    1. He sounds like a very dishonest little man.

      Up till that Telegraph exposé, you’d could have imagined the greasy little thieves would have thought that they would be safe. (I call them thieves becasue that’s how they define people who have take benefits to which they are not entitled.)

      But having been caught (and a very few of the not important ones sent to enjoy the hospitality of her majesty for a couple of weeks), you’d have though that they might have learned. But the greed of some… obviously including him… always gets the better of them.

      Why does he live with his mother at that age… No, don’t tell me, I really don’t want to know. I wonder if he wets the bed?

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        1. Here you go, Tris:

          I believe the Spanish kept trying to stop the Brits – or rather, the English – doing such awful things to their lovely product. As we Scots would be if the Spanish imported quantities of cheapo Scotch whisky / slightly whisky-flavoured industrial alcohol from various crap distilleries, stirred them all together in a big vat and sold the resulting toxic mixture as Spanish whisky.

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          1. Oddly enough, I remember from my days in the whisky industry that the Spanish used to insist that the whisky they imported was a year older than the stuff sold to the rest of the world. We took the view that a 4 year old whisky was 3 years +, so yer actual Spaniards insisted it should be a minimum of 4 years old and so got what we would call 5 year old whisky. Domestic consumption stuff only , duty free was still 4 year old ( ie 3years +).

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        1. I know Australian wine is good… I’ve even had wine in a box… why not… but I’m not keen on a can. That’s for beer (which I think you guys also do rather well)… a tinny?

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  8. What a wonderfully varied, learned and eclectic collection of comments. Who would have expected this from the antics of one disagreeable, greedy man. Fair brightened up my morning. Thanks to all.

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  9. OT slightly,
    I listened to the great deal being offered to the Palestinian People by great dealer from the white house.
    It was totally embarrassing, where was the representative of the Palestinian People.
    This was a self serving party full of silences that I had to go next door to see what was happening live.
    Someone wants to take donald to the doctor’s I feel he is seriously ill, but I’m no doctor.
    Had a look at the EBC site and the great deal is an also ran piece way down the page.
    What’s first, the delay on ambulances for seriously ill, don’t say it, but it’s about englandland.
    We’re still in the contaminated water inquiry.
    The Bank of RUK is thinking of reducing the bank lending rate to 0.5% due to the fall in the inflation rate to 1.3% for the last month, due to the falling prices on women’s clothes and CHEAP HOTEL rooms, whilst the banks are raising the overdraft fees to 40%.
    The idea is that that economy needs stimulating by making it cheaper to borrow money, I see a wee problem there, the other NEWS was that the DEBT burden on the population has increased by the government borrowing more to meet the bills, now Trillions, doesn’t matter what currency at that level is doesn’t matter whether it’s in dollars or euros.
    Scotland’s wind generators have to pay a subsidy to get connected to the grid to transfer the energy to englandland through the new DC link from Hunterston to Liverpool.
    All hidden from you.

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    1. If inflation is 1.3% I’m Prince Edward. As I don’t ever book hotel rooms in the UK, and I never buy women’s clothes, I can’t see how these falls in prices have affected me.

      I wonder if I will soon have to pay the bank to allow me to keep my savings account open. The interest rate at the moment is pretty near zero.

      It seems that the Palestinians are getting a lousy deal, which is no more than you would expect from Trump.

      Two states… Your state consists of that street and that street and your capital is no longer your capital.

      Still, what did you expect from Trump? A good idea?


      1. Aye a quick phone call to the Kurds will sort out any confidence you’d have with donal.
        Have yo noticed that the price of fuel at filling stations goes down the few days before the day they take the prices, then goes back up afterwars.
        Then they say the fall in the inflation rate is down.
        Last year the cost of cars rose 9% from the previous year for the same model, cheap cars removed from the statistics, cheap holidays put in. That’s 9 % on a £15k purchase some £1300, hotel room goes down £10 a night, that’s in, ladies dress goes down £20, in.bought in small qualtities.
        Bread and beans go up , out of the analysis, bought daily by large parts of the population.
        Reports that doris’s troops are unhappy with his shuggie deal, remind him that it is his friends that will ditch him in due time.
        Huawei is the Glasgow based phone company with facilities in China, locally known as Shug.

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        1. LOL Yes.

          He might even loose it if enough of them bail on him.

          The inflation figure always was a load of rubbish that bore no resemblance to the actual price rises we were seeing.

          Like most stuff in the Uk a total joke.


    2. About the TNUoS (Transmission Network Use of System) charges on electricity generators – my research has turned up the actual figures. Some background: Britain (as opposed to Ireland) is divided into 27 generation areas for the purposes of these calculations. Of those, areas 1-11 are entirely within Scotland whereas 12 straddles the Border. The final tables for 2018-2019 are given in (shortened URL), and the ones we need in particular are tables 7 and 8 on pp. 13 and 14.

      The 27 generation zones are shown on the map on p. 47 of that report, while the demand zones map, which will be more familiar to electricity customers in Scotland, shows the split between the old Hydro board and South of Scotland Electricity Board, with the southern edge of the zone coinciding with the Border.

      The system is bewilderingly complex, but buried beneath the minutiae is the central fact that we Scots are being charged through the nose for the use of our own electricity grid – and there’s even a token “subsidy” to consumers in the North of Scotland to compensate in part for the high charges levied on power generated there by the same people who levy the charges on generators there…

      Sure, the costs of putting in the necessary infrastructure and maintaining it depend to some extent on where you’re putting it in and how much of it you’re putting in, but in independent Scotland I would expect at the least to see us all paying the same demand charges to take electricity out of the grid. That way, the relatively small numbers of Hydro consumers would pay less, and the much larger numbers of customers in the current SSEB area would see a much smaller increase in their bills – assuming that beefing up the Scottish national grid to cope with renewable generation, and maintaining it thereafter, actually cost as much as the current levies yield. I suspect that we’re being systematically overcharged, so in independent Scotland our electricity should cost less than it does now rather than more.

      It’s probably worth pointing out that higher utility charges, poor broadband service, the excess delivery charges imposed by some shippers and all the other things that cost more the further you are from the major population centres all have the effect of holding back economic development in general and people’s personal standards of living in particular.

      Would independent Scotland have split the country into two for electricity supply purposes? I really don’t think so, because I cannot see that it makes any sense from the Scottish point of view to systematically disadvantage one tranche of the population relative to another, effectively discriminating against them, in the supply of the common, shared necessity and public utility that is the supply of electricity.

      I look forward to a team of hard-nosed negotiators informing their counterparts over the border that from now on, we’re taking over full responsibility for our side of the Border, including our part of area 12, and for cross-border electricity supplies they will be paying us x quid for it and no, they will not subtract TNUoS charges for it because we’re not paying for them to maintain their side of the grid.

      Just a reminder – energy supplies are a reserved matter. I wonder why – economics? As are broadcasting and telecoms – political? Railways – maybe They don’t want us improving ours to an embarrassing extent. Ah well. That’s quite enough of me wittering on this morning.

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      1. Thanks Edd, I had some old figures for the generation tariffs, good to have the more up to date ones.
        Had a quick scan through them, but tbh I’m too tired to scrutinise properly just now. Although I did see one set of figures had been set lower due to EU regulations.
        My suspicion is that the investors recently pulling out of the planned subsea cable between the Western Isles and Scotland mainland, was due to them (investors) not getting any guarantee on generators tariff levels from Westminster, Ofgen said as much.
        The revenue collected will come back to Scotland though, all 8,6% of it, thereby subsidising the 26 to 28% of electricity that England needs to import.
        Never mind eh, better together.
        Aye, in a pigs arse, to quote Mr P Larkin.

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  10. All this talk of tea. Russian Caravan tea, strongly brewed with fresh lemon slices and no sugar. Wonderful.
    If it has to be coffee, then let it be Turkish (With Cardamon) , medium sweet and the spoon standing up in it.

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    1. andy……Lemon goes great with tea.
      Would one ever take lemon with tea at the palace? Milk? Sugar?

      Spoon standing up! That’s strong coffee.

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  11. Thank you all for a splendid pre-bedtime read. My earlier comments were out of sync in the timeline but it’s now 11pm in Bulgaria and Malko (Wee) Willie Winkie’s been rappin’ at the windae fir ‘oors. Are a’ the grandpas in their beds, it’s past beer o’ clock? Aye, almost, but first I have to check on that Ardbeg again…

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