WE WANT TO BE OUT, BUT WE WANT TO BE IN

IN OUT, IN OUT, SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT

You think I’m joking, but in fact, she is for real.

No really, she’s not a stand-up comedienne, she’s a <snigger> politici… Nah, I can’t say it.

What did she think would happen?

I mean she wasn’t daft enough to believe that we could have our cake and eat it, or that we held all the cards, or that there were no downsides to Brexit, surely?

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I’ve always thought of leaving the EU as being a bit like leaving a golf club (not that I’ve ever been anywhere near a golf club).

So, you’re in the Trumpy golf club; you decide to leave. Fair enough… but you’re going to stay in for as long as your last year’s subscription lasts, maybe till you find another club to take you.

But then, after that, you propose that, although no longer a member, you’d like to maybe come in one afternoon a week and play a round with your buddies.

Oh, and perhaps have a few drinks at the bar of a Friday evening.

Perchance bring your other half in for a meal on a Saturday from time to time.

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Maybe even have your kids’ Christmas party in the function room, like you’ve always done.

But you make it clear that you do not recognise the authority of the Management Committee, and have no intention of following their silly rules.

Maybe Bullingdon Boys are so used to trashing restaurants that it doesn’t occur to them that normal people do follow other people’s rule?

 

56 thoughts on “WE WANT TO BE OUT, BUT WE WANT TO BE IN”

  1. Problem is tris you dear boy
    Are not a toff with all that air of
    Superiority over the little people.

    One not only is born to have your cake and to eat it but also have the silver platter it was brought to you on.

    I suggest you take yourself back to whatever poor part of town
    You come from and desist from
    Talking up to your betterers (if there is such a word jolly well should be )

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    1. Point taken, Niko. I’ll crawl back into my hovel.

      It’s a very comfortable little hovel. I’m a lucky lad that Munguin allows me to remain there, almost rent free.

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    1. Tris. I can’t remember where. I watched a tv prog where shuggy was on a beach and fishermen were throwing him fish that they had to discard. He was showing these fish to members of the public and how terrible this was and that these fish should be landed instead of being thrown back into the sea. On air a member of the public told him that this did not happen in Scotland and that all fish were landed. Shuggy was a bit taken aback.

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  2. Trade negotiations are about trading off what is not important to you against what is.
    Fishing is not important to England but the City of London is.
    The outcome should be clear to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together.
    It’s not as if there is no historical precedent for this assumption and since circumstances have not changed then the outcome is predictable.
    Fishing will always be more important to an independent Scotland than England,so Scottish negotiators will place a greater emphasis on this come the day.
    Anyone who thinks that being part of Greater England gives them more clout during negotiations is delusional to say the least.
    How many planes are going to be required to ship fish across the Atlantic to the USA market?
    Apart from the increased ecological damage,there is the huge increase in costs for the industry.
    Idiots.

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    1. I keep on saying to myself that I must have missed something.

      It seems patently obvious that if they sold out the fishermen before, they will do it again, because fish is a tiny part of the UK economy, and as you say, the City is a large part.

      They also seem to have missed the point that in trade negotiations, no one holds ALL the cards, but the bigger you are the more cards you hold.

      And yet, trade deals with larger countries (USA, Europe, India) are the ones that are really worth having.

      Still, DOCTOR Fox did do a good deal with the Faroes.

      As Mr Trump is fond of saying ‘Quid Pro Quo’. He probably learned it from Boris who was giving the Greek a break for once.

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  3. Behind the times. A tale of unintended consequences.
    2 years ago trump decided to start a trade war with China.
    The USA imposed tariffs on manufactured goods from China.
    The Chinese responded by placing tariffs on USA agriculture, particularly Soya Beans.
    Result, the USA’s farmers lost a big chunk of their previous $41b exports being put in storage or turned into waste, 25 million tonnes of beans were reported destroyed.
    What are the Chinese doing about it, they’re moving production into Africa and destroying the rain forest.
    Never happened before?
    Well in the 70’s, Nixon cut off Soya exports to Japan to keep the price of Soya fed meat in control.
    Japan moved to Brazil and Argentina to ensure supplies even although the ban was of very short duration.
    Compare to the OPEC countries reducing the oil supply causing the price to spike at over $100 a barrel, the other countries moved to fining ways to reduce their need for oil, cars are more economic there’s more green energy sources like windmills and solar farms.
    So maybe our very clever pm!!!!! might just rue the day when he casts aside the fishing to the EU who may just develop fishing fleets to by-pass the UK fleets and their millionaire companies.
    We can always go into selling derivative fish, the paper based CDO type covered by swap insurance via the london casino operation.
    That might just get by-passed by the Paris and Frankfurt casinos.
    Maybe the EU will catch the 47,000 salmon that decided to return to Norway after their visas were withdrawn.
    History and repeats seem to be the way of the world.

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      1. “Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana

        Often attributed to W. S. Churchill, who modified it to “Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.”

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  4. The fishing industry is simply getting what it voted for… tory rule and brexit. With Govie in charge I’m sure he’ll do his best to favour the fishermen over the financial sector; after all he’s a man who’s word you could take to the bank.

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        1. PP, you disappoint me. I thought you were all for more whales. Why only sperm banks?? We should also support blue, beluga, narwhal etc but their banks never seem to get mentioned, if they have any. Maybe Fred the Shred and the Crystal Methodist were in charge?

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  5. Thought you forgot about the white powder bank, then remembered he only does withdrawals there.
    Was confused about the Dr Fox reference so looked it up.
    Seems to be a drug outlet on the Great Western Rd in Glascue, you can get all sorts there like Viagra on a presciption written by Dr Fox, or it might be a reference to a DJ.

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    1. LOL. I always emphasise DOCTOR, because he doesn’t like to be merely Mr. The thing is, his “doctor” title is an honourary one, as he’s a medical doctor. I’m not sure if he’s kept it up to date by practising, so I’m not sure if he’s honestly entitled to use it.

      But who cares. The point is that he makes a big thing of it.

      Gordon Brown never made a big thing about his PhD. I never heard him called Dr Brown. Angela Merkel likewise.

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    1. I’m not convinced Mr Leopard recognised himself. Though he was a handsome chappy (or chapess.)

      One of the tests of higher intelligence is the ability to recognise yourself. Chimps can, I think gorillas can too. Not sure about orangs. I would have thoughts the elys would have, they are well clever!

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      1. I sympathise with the leopard. These days, every time I look in a mirror (not often, admittedly) I’m shocked to see my father staring back at me. But when did he grow a beard? He was always clean-shaven while alive!

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  6. Tris
    My views on the EU have always been clear, while the EU is in the main a positive democratic union it has shown an unwillingness to deal with corruption, waste, and has stuck to it’s neo liberal policy agenda that just does not work. I favour an EEA model for a future independent Scotland and believe that the UK should have sought that type of deal. although the Tories were never going to go for that and Labour didn’t know what they wanted as they tried to appease their racists in the north of England ( I generalize rudely I know). The Tories however will however make a mess of it and are in for a very rude awakening, we can only hope it wakes up some Scots to what is actually going on.

    Bruce

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    1. I think Mrs May did suggest an EEA membership, but the Norwegian PM pretty much told her to get lost.

      I’m not sure Iceland thinks highly of the UK after Brown accused them of terrorism.

      EEA is a group of small, essentially very rich countries of which Norway, about 5 million, is the largest.

      The UK joining would swamp it by numbers and of course,they would want everything THEIR way. You know them. They always have to be in charge. They always know best.

      EFTA is the same organisation with the addition of Switzerland, which is also rich.

      They don’t need the EU subsidies for farmers, development or infrastructure that the UK does.

      The EEA?EFTA share many of the rules of the EU and of course have the 4 freedoms.
      There would be no “taking back control”. And that wold give the ERG all manner of heart attacks.

      EEA might very well do fine for Scotland though, and it’s something that at least initially we might have to consider.

      I’m not sure you can be in the EU if you don’t have a central bank, for example, but I think you can be in EEA.

      Correct me if I’m wrong, please.

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      1. Central Bank, Tris: we already have one. The one we have at the moment is misleadingly called the Bank of England, but its true name is the Central Reserve Bank of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. To put it another way, we own our share of it. What we need is the bureaucracy put in place to run our bit. As for the bullion, it doesn’t matter whose vault it’s in as long as it’s got our name on it: The BoE has quite a lot of other peoples’ gold in it, I seem to recall.

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        1. Like a lot of things “retained for safe keeping” by Westminster and its lackies the gold may or may not be physically in the vault. There has been so much hypothecation that it is difficult to know which bars of Gold belong to whom. Certainly audits have turned up major errors with different bar numbers being claimed by different parties. Hold the Gold in your own hands otherwise when you come to claim it you’ll be in the queue with the other 60 claimants for the same ounce.

          Various countries have asked for their Gold back from the Bank of England and have been refused.
          https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/ronan-manly/bank-of-england-tears-up-its-gold-custody-contract-with-venezuelas-central-bank/

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          1. Hooooo boy… Well, for the moment, anyway, it doesn’t matter so much unless everyone wants their gold out at once. As long as everyone believes it’s there, it’s still worth the same. And it’s in everyone’s interest to maintain the fiction even if they know / suspect / wonder if it’s a fiction. Coz if they break ranks, their own holdings lose worth just like everyone else’s.

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          2. Sorry, I forgot to mention that Venezuela is currently under sanctions. Sorry also that I haven’t read the article yet. So it seems to me that the Bank of England would have had to refuse the transaction regardless of its own motives in doing so.

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              1. Yes, Douglas, the sanctions were brought in against the Maduro regime by the EU, the United States, Canada, Switzerland, Mexico, and Panama. I can’t remember at this point which particular outrage provoked it, and am just recovering from a visit to the dentist which is my excuse for not checking up on it.

                I feel sorry for the Venezuelan people: betcha none of them asked for any of this. That’s one of the problems with sanctions: if you’re rich enough and crooked enough, you can always get round them.

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                  1. I have to put up with it for almost 3 more weeks for the area to recover before anything else can be done to it. It’s not as bad as it was, but I am SO tired because I haven’t been able to sleep properly. Aargh. I’m sure everyone knows what it can be like sometimes, so no need to feel sorry for me – I’m doing that perfectly well on my own!

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                    1. Well, I think we all are felling sorry for you, no matter how good you are at it yourself!

                      🙂

                      We all probably know how horrific toothache is, and how little you can do about it.

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            1. They asked for their Gold before sanctions. The sanctions were imposed because the oligarchs wanted a right wing government and the democratically elected president wouldn’t give them control of the oil.

              I’m getting plenty rest, thanks for asking,. Have you seen the footage of the duststorms out West and the hail hitting Canberra. However we are back to firedanger conditions so I might be called out again, who knows. We just lost a Very Large Air Tanker today, 3 American crew lost. The fire season has still two m9nths to run, so a long way to go yet.

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                  1. Absolutely agree Tatu. We all need to own this. Even if we don’t do a prince Charles and go everywhere by private jet.

                    But the wildlife… have little effect on climate. It’s famed animals that contribute, I think.

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              1. Jeez, that’s terrible, K. The footage of dust storms and flash floods and massive hail looks apocalyptic. I don’t envy you your job, but I’m sure I speak for all other Munguinites too in begging you to take care and stay safe.

                So the BoE refused to transfer the gold to Venezuela before sanctions were imposed, eh? I hold no brief for the Bank of England, as you may have guessed, but you have to wonder who would have got their hands on the stuff if they had handed it over. We have enough cases of kleptocrats looting whole countries’ economies, selling their resources off without giving them any say in the matter and stashing ordinary peoples’ wealth away in foreign banks in tax havens … oh, wait a minute…

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        2. There’s a lot of valuable stuff held in vaults sand museums and art galleries in England that isn’t owned by England but England refuse to return it to the rightful owners even though theft has been proven
          There goes your gold bullion, and the rest

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