It was five years ago today (the National ad is from yesterday) and I guess we can all remember what we were doing back then.

I recall that the weather here was pretty grim, cold, dark and rainy but, for all that, it was a happy day, full of hope for the future and I drove all over the town of Dundee ferrying people who needed help to get to polling stations with a great big smile on my face.

It was a happy day. Everyone was full of enthusiasm and hope. A new dawn sort of thing.

We all started early in the morning and went on till the polls closed. Dog tired we took what was left of the stoviews and sandwiches and headed home to await the result. We were happy, quietly confident, and sure we’d done the best we could.

Well, we all know how it turned out.

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And we know what happened to most of the promises, made largely by Gordon Brown on behalf of David Cameron, as soon as, or within weeks of the result being announced.

I can’t see how she could ever be prime minister or even deputy prime minister with most legislation get government would propose being outside her purview

The frigates numbers were reduced and then reduced again; the passport offices closed; the tax offices moved to Croyden… and of course, instead of setting up an English parliament, they introduced EVEL, which pretty much makes a high office impossible for a Scottish based MP.  So think on, Jo Swinson.

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The Wee Black Book, penned by Stuart Campbell, lays out the lies, or at least those that were known at the time of its publication.

One of the biggest lies was, of course, the fallacy that the only way to stay in the European Union was to stay in the United Kingdom. It was always clear that the EU was far more popular in Scotland (and Northern Ireland) than it was in England or Wales.

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And later…


Of course, among all of Cameron’s claims and promises, this turned out to be the biggest whopper of them all.

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Better Together used these people and then abandoned them.

The loss of a tax office or two was, of course, terrible for the people who worked there (especially after they had been so used by the UKOK campaign) and for the towns concerned, but, compared with the disaster that would have been Brexit even if it had been handled well, it was comparatively small beer.

And, as we all know, it has been anything but well handled from day one.

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Cameron promised that if he lost he would stay on to sort the mess out. He resigned as PM on the morning after the EU vote and as an MP shortly after that and buggered off to his shed to write his memoirs and make himself some money. With the Big Society well and truly forgotten as a legacy, his memoirs turned out to be a sulk at Johnson and Gove.

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No one of any talent wanted the job he vacated, of course, and in the end, we, or rather the Tory Party, was left with a choice of the appalling Theresa May, a woman of little charm, no empathy and little political skills and the idiot’s idiot, Andrea Leadsom, who appeared to think that she was better suited to the job because she was a mother and May was not.

Add to that the endless list of talentless, lazy and  incompetent ministers that May appointed, her signing of Article 50 before any plan was in place and her eventual resignation as the Conservatives split with visceral hatred, to leave us with the Incredible Hulk, Boris Johnson, and an even more incredibly incompetent band of hard-right wingers, making the UK a laughing stock.

It might be fair to say, too, that throughout all this, the Labour Party hasn’t shown the slightest sign of any kind of competence. And that has been obvious to the public. Even with prime ministers as incompetent and bumbling as May and Johnson, Corbyn has never been shown in the polls as a credible prime minister.

And all of this was thrust on Scotland against the will of the Scottish people.

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I’ve said for some time that the only reason that we are not the biggest laughing stock in the world is that, compared with the USA and its moronic leader and his fractured government, the UK is relatively unimportant. 

And so, today, with most opinion polls (except those initiated by Scotland in Union) showing a surge in the desire to take our own affairs in hand, we still have hope that in the not too distant future we shall be able to do just that, and take our place in the European family of nations as a small independent country.

All the indicators are that Europe will welcome us. The other Nordic and Celtic nations in the EU and EEA have already made it clear that they will.

Maybe yet we can build a society that will look a little more like that which we really want.

If we don’t take this chance, then we don’t deserve the chance. We shall deserve to remain a vassal state doing the will of our bigger neighbour and cut off from Europe.

53 thoughts on “IT WAS 5 YEARS AGO TODAY…”

  1. and let’s not forget the lie that it would be faster, safer change with more powers. Then we had the power of over hundred then reduced to the 24 they really wanted from Holyrood including the ones that will facilitate lower food standards. The lie that the Sewell convention – that Westminster would not legislate without Holyrood’s agreement – would be put on a statutory footing. What we got was a law that said a consent decision is when

    1. Holyrood agrees
    2. Holyrood doesn’t comment
    3. Holyrood disagrees.

    Yes when you say no, it really means yes.

    I’m sure others can add to this litany of horror.

    I was broken when I knew No won. I feared for our future and there’s no pleasure in being right.

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    1. Yes, I’m sure people will add to the list.

      I’m worried about that big new (hideous) office block that they have built in Edinburgh and what dreadful things they will do in there! Particularly that unpleasant man Jack…although I’m very much hoping that he’ll lose his seat at the election.

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  2. It’s a bit like, ‘Everyone remembers where they were when Kennedy was shot’ . I was working in Clydebank on the day of the referendum. I can remember coming out of work and seeing cars with big Saltires driving up and down Kilbowie Road. There was a real buzz. I really thought we had it in the bag and was devastated the next morning when I heard that Yes had lost. Shortly after, I went to work on a project in Kent, I was dreading it, I reckoned I was going to get pelters for being a Scot. Well, my faith in human nature was restored. Most folk I spoke to down there commiserated with me and were asking “How come you lost”? , “You should have gone for it”!
    A lot of sympathy and understanding for Independence down South. Next time, let’s not disappoint.

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    1. Probably even more so now, Andy.

      I’ve lost count of the number of people who said they are considering, or even have made, a move to Scotland, because Nicola Sturgeon is the only leader worth anything and they want to be in Scotland when it breaks free.

      Welcome, I say.

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  3. It’s like the anniversary of a death in the family. I can’t help but imagine us being an independent country right now, watching the clusterfeck of Brexit as an EU nation, immune to their dangerous idiocy.
    For those who voted no last time and realised their mistake it must be even worse.

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    1. Absolutely. I might feel sorry for them, but at least I wouldn’t be worrying about food and fuel supplies and utter isolation, and soon handing the control that the idiots thought they had taken back, to Donald Moron Trump.

      As I say, if this time we don’t grasp independence, then we deserve to be where we are.

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        1. He also said

          “The Scottish are born warriors and, from the purity of their air, inherit good sense. Whence comes it then that Scotland, under the name of a union, has become a province of England? “

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            1. You’ll find it here;


              The Works of Voltaire, Vol XIX

              It’s in the section on “English Commerce”. Here’s the paragraph

              Carthage, Venice, and Amsterdam were undoubtedly powerful; but their conduct has been exactly like that of merchants grown rich by traffic, who afterward purchase lands with the dignity of lordship annexed to them. Neither Carthage, Venice, nor Holland have, from a warlike and even conquering beginning, ended in a commercial nation. The English are the only people existing who have done this; they were a long time warriors before they learned to cast accounts. They were entirely [17] ignorant of numbers when they won the battles of Agincourt, Crécy, and Poitiers, and were also ignorant that it was in their power to become cornfactors and woollen–drapers, two things that would certainly turn to much better account. This science alone has rendered the nation at once populous, wealthy, and powerful. London was a poor countrytown when Edward III. conquered one–half of France; and it is wholly owing to this that the English have become merchants; that London exceeds Paris in extent, and number of inhabitants; that they are able to equip and man two hundred sail of ships of war, and keep the kings who are their allies in pay. The Scottish are born warriors, and, from the purity of their air, inherit good sense. Whence comes it then that Scotland, under the name of a union, has become a province of England? It is because Scotland has scarcely any other commodity than coal, and that England has fine tin, excellent wool, and abounds in corn, manufactures, and trading companies.

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  4. Tris
    I remember talking to my brother on the day of the vote and he said he voted no, he had bought into the lies of the unionists and the feeling that here is an intelligent man, highly trained, highly skilled and he just didn’t see what I saw, he didn’t get that my yes vote was for my kids. I spoke to some friends and we all agreed it was going to be close, it was going to be tight, I was hopeful that we were just going to make it over the line. Then the result from East Dumbarton came in, the first result of the night and no had won in East Dumbarton, I text my friend and said to him that we had lost and he told me to shut up. It was then just a night of being depressed but proud of Dundee. My home City, full of poverty, drug problems, too many reliant on the state had voted for hope and I was so proud of my city in a night that Scotland broke my heart. I remember walking to work, deciding to stop smoking beacuase I wanted to be around for the next referendum, seeing the scenes in George Square of Nazi alutes and wee girls being attacked and thinking fuck that, I am never giving up on independence, I’m never giving it to those scum bags in that square, they were so full of hate and anger and they had won. Seeing Labour, Tory and Liberal activists dancing together made me sick then bam Cameron announcing EVAL, a huge punch in the puss for Scotland. I remember feeling really angry that the SNP accepted the Smith Commission when they should have walked away because it was never good enough, I felt sad that Alex Salmond had stood down and thought we needed him more than ever and still do. I have never been a fan of NS as leader and her SNP is not the same one that fought the referendum but I resolved to never give up and still resolve that today. It will be a close yes win the next time I believe that , that’s why the unionists are so afraid and no one can tell me they haven’t polled and know the tide has turned. We have to win because if we don’t it’s over for my life time and we might as well be North Britain’s.

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    1. Very touching memories, Bruce.

      I agree that the unionists are afraid. This poll organised by Scotland in Union is, I suspect faulty. There is no way that the 50+ we were seeing a few weeks ago has become 41!

      That’s just silly.

      If they thought that they were going to win with figures like that, they would grant a section 30 today and let the SNP and Greens (and others) humiliate themselves.

      But nope. The latest Tory wheeze is that it will have to be a two thirds vote to win … This is the same Tory party that is determined to take Britain out of the EU (the will of the British people) on a 52% vote.

      It’s not just Swinson that is an utter joke. Johnson and Corbyn are too.


  5. It’s been a difficult five years, hasn’t it? It’s also been five years since I had my last heart attack. I’d posted off my postal vote that morning a couple of weeks before the day, so if I’d croaked anytime before the 18th I would have joined the exclusive club of those who voted posthumously…

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    1. Thankfully that didn’t happen, then.

      I mean, what would have happened to Cassandra… or that evil twin of yours if you’d shuffled off the mortal coil?

      And what of Munguin losing his Uncle Ed?

      Have a care, would you, for little animals!

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  6. There’s apparently a “stop brexit” vigil running in Edinburgh this week.

    Lots of OAPs at the foot of the mound waving flags with circles of stars on them.

    I’m debating taking my YES Saltaire and waving it at them on the way home tomorrow.

    Seriously – what’s the point of a stop brexit demo in Scotland?

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    1. I doubt there is any.

      The government and all the political parties urged people to vote against it, and they did by a reasonable majority. However, what we think in Scotland is of absolutely no interest to people in London like Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Chris Grayling and Jacob Rees Mogg.

      They would do better to campaign for Scottish Independence, then they can get back into the EU, if that’s what Scotland wants.

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      1. “They would do better to campaign for Scottish Independence”

        That was my thought exactly. Hence thinking of taking my YES Saltire in to work with me so I can wave it at them on the way home – making it *Very* clear it’s a pro-indy flag. Possibly with something pointed to stay to them if I can think of something snappy I can yell as I walk past.

        Is it strange that I was almost offended (and certainly confused) by the Union Flag they were flying next to a Saltire?

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        1. I always thing that’s daft. After all, the Saltire is included on the union flag.

          I can never think of anything witty to shout. But I suspect that some cleverer Munguinites may have suggestions.


  7. Once more, on the Edinburgh AUOB march, I felt again that same feeling of 5 years ago, “this is going to happen, there is a buzz of excitement, we can do this.” But 5 years ago the transition to the following day, even at this distance, was and is still painful. Then, almost immediately, came the rage at Cameron with his EVEL declaration. Followed by a string of manoeuvres and events giving evidence and confirming that what we were told was nothing but empty promises and lies. It fuelled anger and rage but it was also tinged with humiliation. I felt humiliated, humiliated that we, as a nation had been conned.
    An Irish friend was perplexed, post 2014, “all you had to do was cast enough votes, we had to shed blood.”

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    1. And that anger resulted in the SNP landslide in the 2015 General Election. I remember well my own fury when I heard Cameron outside no. 10 on the morning after, gloating. “Ha ha fooled you”… and now thousands of innocent trees are going to have to die to publish his memoirs on. I’m not usually in favour of bookburnings, but sometimes…

      I just got sent a YouGov poll to do, and on the question of who was to blame for the failure of the Brexit negotiations, 57% were saying it was the fault of the UK Government, and to the question “Do you have any sympathy for Boris Johnson?”, 58% said no. I find it hopeful that the scales have fallen from so many people’s eyes. Perhaps the Great British Public are finally waking up to the fact that they have been conned over Brexit the way we Scots were in 2014, by posh-boy ars*****s and far-right w*****s who don’t give a flying ***k about the rest of us, or even whether we live or die.

      Pardon my French.

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      1. And yet, the right wing newspapers are still hailing Johnson. Luxembourg has been pulled over the coals by the Express and then Mail.

        How dare a pip squeak micro-state treat the GREAT BRITISH prime minister like that? Who on Earth do they think they are?

        I suspect that Cameron’s memoirs will not trouble trees much. The copies that are printed will end up on the remaindered shelves before long.

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          1. I really enjoy political memoirs, no matter whos. I’ve read from the hard left to the hard right and enjoyed nearly all of them. I drew the line at Thatcher, who rambled like a madwoman. Even my mate, who can read anything, no matter how dry, gave up on her second volume.

            I also didn’t think I would be able to read Blair’s without actually vomiting. I suspect that Cameron will be much the same. Everyone’s fault but his.

            When in fact, it pretty much is all his fault.

            So I’ll use Tony Benn’s diaries for propping up that table! 🙂

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    2. When I was in Dublin in 2014, a few months before the referendum, I visited some memorials to those who died in the struggles against the Brits. I was reminded then of exactly what your friend said.

      I can’t for the life of me understand why Cameron did his EVEL speech, especially when he did it, but why at all.

      The introduction of parliaments for Wales, NI and Scotland but not for England, said to me. Britain is England and England is Britain. The hangers on have to have their parliaments (to satisfy our membership of the Council of Europe). And so, for many, the Westminster parliament became the English parliament…and for much of the week, it is.

      I seemed an incredibly stupid thing to do. It reinforced the differences between us and made Scottish, Welsh and NI members, second class.

      It was clearly unfair that Scottish and Welsh, and at that time NI politicians, could debate and vote on matters that affected only England, whilst English politicians had no say in matters which affected the devolved countries.

      The way to deal with that, surely, was to set up an English parliament with a number of devolved responsibilities.

      Westminster could then have acted like a Federal parliament.

      That said, I appreciate that the three Celtic nations have different levels of devolution and deciding what to devolve to an English parliament might have caused problems.

      Surely though, that could have been overcome more easily than the unequal nature of what I still see as the English parliament where it would be almost impossible for a Scottish or Welsh member to hold high office.

      The usual constitutional mess that you would expect from the UK.

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      1. Fudge, cludge and fart about. It’s been the British way for the last 60 years as far as I can tell. I say 60 years because I’m 64, and I didn’t start watching Panorama whenever I could finagle it until I was about 4. Gawd, I was a peculiar kid!

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        1. Panorama at age 4, that is impressive. Me at 4? I remember my first heart melt, Shirley Abicair with, or without her zither on Children’s Hour. Only to be eclipsed by Janey Malcolm, when I had matured a bit, now aged 5 and could go to primary school.

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                1. I’m also in the dark about what’s on the telly. I’ve never had one ever since I completed a 6 year radio and tv apprenticeship and saw grownups almost in tears as you tried to break the news gently, as in bereavement, that you would have to take their telly back to the workshop. It’s left me emotionally scarred and no counselling back then.

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      2. I think Cameron did it because he was so puffed up with his own self-importance at winning that he simply couldn’t resist the urge to gloat, and rub salt in the wounds of those of us traitorous Jockanese who – how very dare they! – had had the temerity to show a bit of spirit, talk back and be generally uppity against those who by class, wealth and education, considered themselves a cut above the common ruck, the canaille, the oiks, the sweaties…

        Government by Bullingdon Boys. Insufferable.

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        1. Rather like the original settlement, it was a stupid, ill-thought out thing to do.

          It was bound to cause problems.

          If the Conservatives end up needing the Libs to prop them up next time, how on earth can Swinson be deputy prime minister when she can’t vote on English matters?

          Really, Britain and its airy fairy constitution is just a great big fat mess.

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