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            1. No! No! I’d never dream of any such thing … but of course that’s not to say I’d refuse a willing donation from our most illustrious sponsor 😉

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            1. We must ferret out the evil-doers! Are mink, coypu or otters involved too? Is this a muscelid invasion before which we, like lemmings, must flee, or are they rodents? Is that a dormouse in my teapot? The mind boggles!

              Ah, here’s Nurse with my pills. Toodle-pip!

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  2. Agree with Conan. Good to see we have an FM who behaves like a real person and laughs it off while remarking there are probably lots of people out there who’s like to boak over her.

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      1. Weeel … the Union has lasted what 300 years or so and with England in charge to all intents and purposed, so maybe based on relative population sizes, Scotland should rule the Union for a couple of decades before it’s finally dissolved? That would go some way to evening things up … but would it be anywhere near long enough to sort out England’s problems?

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        2. Marconatrix,

          I know I am a bore, I am so fed up with the mere idea that Scotland can fix Englands problems. No matter h0w much time they gave us. Or us, them.

          You ask a question:

          “That would go some way to evening things up … but would it be anywhere near long enough to sort out England’s problems?”

          The answer is an unswerving no.

          England is in what fighter pilots described as a ‘death spiral’. It was a tad amazing that lots of fighter pilots saved us from fascism. And yet very few of them appear to be English.

          Apart from genuine hero’s, who have you got Marconatrix?

          I call bullshit!

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          1. OK, don’t take it too seriously, I was just thinking of a tit-for-tat solution, with the satisfaction of thinking how would they like to be run by us for a change?
            If England is in as bad a state as you think, a sort of terminal death-spiral, then clearly Scotland needs to free itself as soon as possible.

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  3. As I have said before I’ll say it again now.

    We have a First Minister who is WORLD class.

    We have a Prime Minister who dreams of knowing how to become world class.

    We have a First Minister who is FIRST class.

    We have a Prime Minister who has NO class.

    There are not many party leaders around this corrupt and broken union who could react in a similar way to our first Minister without breaking step and trying to ditch the baby in double quick time. Only a class act like Nicola could do what she did and be humorous at the same time!

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    1. I think most would try to make it look that they took it in their stride… and would have failed.

      She clearly didn’t give a damn that the bairn was sick over her.

      And then, as you say, quick witter as ever, she cracked a joke or two about it.

      We’re bloody lucky to have her.

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      1. I remember how early on there were pictures of her eating an ice cream, having a coffee in a coffee shop, normal things like that. I loved it because – how many other politicians have you seen doing that? They’re too afraid of slittering stuff down themselves and looking, as they think, like eejits – but our First Minister realizes that we all do that sort of thing every now and again and think nothing of it, so why should she worry.

        I refuse to call it “the common touch”, because the phrase implies the existence of a feudalish, class-ridden society in which it is actually unusual for the uppah clahsses to have both the desire and the ability to have a proper conversation with anyone in the lower ordures. Right now I’m imagining, at two opposite poles, Nicola Sturgeon and Jacob Rees-Mogg.

        We are indeed bloody lucky to have her. I look forward to living in a society in which her behaviour is seen as the norm, not the exception. A man’s a man for aa that – and women too.

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          2. That’s my favourite…

            What on earth is this thing? Do common people actually eat this?

            How does one curtsy deeply to Megan Sparkle when one is trying to put this greasy mess in one’s mouth?

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        2. Yes, she’s human, and ordinary, and extraordinary… just like most of us.

          Remember Gideon with some baked goods from Greggs, pretending that he knew what it was, despite it not being grouse?

          Or the Maybot pretending to eat a poke of chips?

          I bet as soon as the cameras were off them she put them in a bin.

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          1. That’s a neat trick, I’ve never seen anybody pull chips out of their mouth before.
            The obsessive stacking in the cones a bit worrying though…..

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      2. I can assure you that bairns being bairns is more or less my life right now. I reject some sort of superiority about wains being wains being the ‘rights’ measure for the future. The kids are doing it for themselves and their parents and adult’s haven’t. Uncurious morons on the right hand side probably believe their nonsense. That they don[‘t need an iota of help because morons like you are rich?

        Just a minor point, insane libertarians, and nutty Republicans?

        You are all a tad stupid.

        Perhaps you are a bit ill, and in need of brain surgeury?

        I’d have thought so.

        Unconvinced by this dreck.

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    2. Oh hush, Niko.

      If you’re gonna get out of the bed on the wrong side, and be all grumpy, make sure the bed isn’t against the wall.

      🙂

      I wonder how Mr Leonard is with babies? He he.

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    3. nikostratos,

      “The truth is if Nicola
      Ate the baby youd all
      Be saying how
      Wunnerful and kind
      Nicey nicey she is”

      Err, no I wouldn’t.

      You do talk a load of shite.

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  7. In utter rage at the Guardian at the moment:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/07/scotland-can-hold-referendum-without-go-ahead-from-uk

    “…the SNP was privately considering staging an illegal referendum, similar to the unofficial plebiscite held by Catalan nationalists…”

    The words “illegal” and “referendum” do not belong together, whether it’s a Scots or a Catalan one.

    Of course – no comments allowed. *Fume*

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    1. As far as Westminster is concerned,Scotland’s people have the right to self determination but only if Westminster allows it.
      How will the global community react to a regime which claims to support Scottish self determination (should we choose) in one breath and refuses to allow it in another?
      They won’t have a leg to stand on if we run a second referendum based on the “gold standard” of the last one which they agreed to.
      Political suicide to refuse this,at least they have a chance if they are seen to agree to it.
      As for the vomiting infant,I wouldn’t allow a child of mine to vomit over Theresa May.
      A waste of good food!

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      1. bringiton,

        “As far as Westminster is concerned,Scotland’s people have the right to self determination but only if Westminster allows it.”

        I have been hanging on to the idea that that is wrong for a couple of reasons:

        Cheating by denying some folk, Europeans, and accepting the English.

        That we c0uld already call a referendum if we won sufficient seats in the Scottish Parliament and that we had already passed a self determination motion?

        Perhaps I am no-one to step onto this idea, but:

        I do not think it is a decision that should be made outwith Scotland.

        Couple of points:

        We should be allowed to make up or own ourselves, absent Westminster.

        We should be allowed the time to digest you dishonest agenda:

        “As far as Westminster is concerned,Scotland’s people have the right to self determination but only if Westminster allows it.

        Frankly that is not accpetible.

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    2. WTF is that all about (the Guardian article, I mean)? I propose to ignore it as a non-story.

      It’s pretty obvious that the First Minister can’t go around giving hostages to fortune such as saying that she and her Government will run a referendum without §30 approval. I believe I read in the National recently that the SG is seeking legal advice on holding such a referendum. Assuming that story is true, that would be the wise thing to do: I think we independentistas know already that it would not be unlawful to hold a consultative referendum, but it is as well for our Government to have a pile of legal opinions to draw on that backs up that position. Be that as it may, the First Minister simply cannot say at this point that she is planning to hold a non-§30 referendum, not while she has not yet repeated her request for such an order.

      And then there’s that obnoxious phrase “illegal referendum”, as Conan points out. Anyone who says that has no real understanding of the issues, or believes in the myth of top-down sovereignty that is so beloved of authoritarians and English exceptionalists.

      It’s comforting in a way that the opposition to Scottish independence is so addle-pated: let Westminster, the Telegraph, the Guardian, the Scotsman, the Carlaw, all continue to blindly sing in tune with Westminster’s jumped-up idea of itself; in the real Scotland, in the real UK even, there is now no denying that we Scots are sovereign. Why, the Westminster Parliament itself said so, so it must be true!

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      2. Illegal as in, not approved by the maybot.

        I’m sure that the canny first minister will get the best legal advice before she does anything.

        I still say that to refuse a secotion 30 when it was in the government’s manifesto and the Green’s manifest, and then approved by parliament, and by the party in Westminster representing over half the Scottish seats… would be a risky strategy.

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        1. I could disquisit for a bit on the difference between “unlawful” and “illegal” if anyone wants me – what? No? Oh, alrighty then.

          I know I’ve already wasted everyone’s time wittering about top-down sovereignty and feudalish, class-ridden societies – I could digress onto the Playing Fields of Eton, and the Bullingdon Club too – but you see it at work in the automatic assumption among the Usual Suspects that if May says “No” to the FM’s renewed request for a §30 order, then May’s word is law.

          But that is not how it works. Just because an order comes to you from a hierarchical superior does not mean you must obey it in all circumstances; in fact, there are many situations in which you must refuse if you can. “I was only following orders” is not a valid defence in a court of law, as the defendants in the Nuremberg trials soon discovered.

          When the trolls who infest our various forums scream and do about indyref2 and how we don’t have any right or mandate to have one how very dare we, we pay no attention – and May has no reputation left for either honesty or insight, so we should feel free to disagree with her as well. Didn’t she just say at Westminster that there was “no mandate” for indyref2, and then do a runner rather than explain herself in response to Ian Blackford’s challenge?

          Such a shame that Bercow again failed to do his job, and let her off with yet another barefaced lie.

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          1. Good points. There are many discussions on Twitter at the moment about whether or not the Scots have the right to, regardless of Mrs May, embark on something that was in the manifesti of the majority of the MSPs elected to the Scottish parliament and over 59% of the MPs elected to the Westminster parliament. And then voted for in our parliament.

            Didn’t Mrs May’s own dear predecessor say that all we had to do was elect a majority of pro-independence MPs …?

            But, according to Mrs May’s personal tea boy, Mrs Thatcher was clearly wrong. She’ll remember that when she meets him in the afterlife.

            And as if it were not bad enough getting this delivered to us by Fluffy, they sent the idiot who doesn’t know the difference between Slovakia and Slovenia, their, wait for it, FOREIGN Secretary, to reinforce it.

            I suspect May is clinging to these last few weeks in power, although I can’t help thinking that the Tories made a huge mistake in holding a vote of no confidence when they did. As their own rules stand, in theory Mayhem can stay for another year…

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      2. “The truth is if Nicola
        Ate the baby youd all
        Be saying how
        Wunnerful and kind
        Nicey nicey she is

        Bah humbug on the lot
        Of ya”

        Says the incredibly sad fan of Donald Trump. Nikostratos, – an idiot of our time -anyway, Niko, which direction will you take your super yacht, north or south before you die? Don’t worry, I’ll have died before you. But idiots like you will frazzle shortly afterwards, no matter which direction you travel in. You really are a bit thick.

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          1. Well I am the exact opposite. I will curse him on behalf of William Gibson, Neal Stephenson and Cixin Liu, to name but a few. Hum, there are a lot of other contemporary science fiction and fantasy authors, that exceed anything written by the Greeks or Romans. Terry Pratchett Perhaps?

            These are millenialists and not his beloved, by me, ancients.

            Classicist is an over-rated term, imho.

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    4. LOL. It was only Jack the Second -Hand Car Lot.

      No one listens to him.

      I see that Wee Ross was banging the same drum. Still, while he’s drumming, I suppose he’s not doing anything else with his hands.

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      1. Ross Thomson in his wee rant mentioned that the result in 2014 meant

        No means No

        I’m not sure if that only applies politically though.

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        2. LOL. Well noticed there PP.

          I think we should all applaud a person who has seen the error if his ways.

          I’m sure that the next time that he feels the need to over indulge in “refreshments”, a friendly “no means no” in his ear will obviate the need to call her majesty’s constabulary.

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        1. Lordy no. I don’t have a lot of time to read these days. I’m ploughing through a book on Donald Trump, which is hilarious, but you know, caring responsibilities take up a lot of my time.

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          1. OK. fair enough. Sorry to have challenged you on something as ridiculously cheap as your reading material when you are dealing with real world issues.

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            1. My reading has always been a bit pedestrian. I’ve always had to read really dry stuff for work… I tend to read light stuff for pleasure. Although I’ll admit to a fondness for Jane Austin and D H Lawrence, I’m more comfortable these days for bed time reading, with a nice murder.

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        2. Well I have, Douglas, so there! Umm … except for Cixin Liu, who will have to wait until I spot one one on offer free. I spend all my spare pennies on helping other people out and on skin care products, you see.

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  8. Some Zombies assume that ‘no means’, “no”, forever. That would include several commentators – I am looking at you Niko – that assume that life never moves on. It is an utterly ridiculous position. I shall avoid the obvious cases and give you instead Ameica’s Independence and the simple fact that they near as damn lost subsequently. Got a thought? They are certainly not a shining light upon a sea, they are a particularily aggressive and horrible example of ‘homo sapiens’.

    Juat sayin’ that might include folk like you Niko?

    Ehh, Niko?

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    1. The whole point of democracy in an every changing world surely is that we can change or minds.

      No doesn’t mean no forever.

      Indeed yes, may not mean yes forever.

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      1. Many years ago now, the Daily Telegraph ran a publicity campaign featuring big billboard posters carrying the slogan “Times change. Values don’t.”

        Nicely Zen-like, in one way; in another, a reflection of the conservative mindset, which believes itself to be a fixed point in a world of change in which all change is, by definition, bad.

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        1. Is the antithesis that values don’t change, but times do?

          That seems more of The Daily Telegraph evolutionary failures as both a newspaper – short term extinction – and stupidity as a general orc in nature.

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          1. Once upon a ime the Telegraph was a news paper.

            I used to buy it for the Crossword. Not as hard as the Times, but hard enough to make you think.

            It was a bonus that their reporting was good and fair. The only nonsense was their hard right editorials.

            Half a page,

            Then the Mad Twins bought it.

            Need I say more?

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