ALL OUR YESTERDAYS

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Thanks again to Dave.

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  1. Hey – after several weeks, something I actually recognise (I think!).

    Picture 2 is one of Amtrak’s transcontinental trains. I travelled on Amtrak’s “California Zephyr” from Chicago to San Francisco in 1986 and my first thought was that this was a picture from that era.

    However, the bi-level lounge/diner car looks as if it could be one of the original Santa Fe Budd Hi-Level cars and not the later Amtrak Superliner version, and the coach on the extreme right still has “Santa Fe” titling above the windows.

    So my guess is that it’s still an Amtrak transcontinental, but probably from the early Seventies when Amtrak was still using the equipment inherited from the pre-Amtrak railroads. No idea where, though – somewhere between Chicago and the West Coast – – –

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    1. Ha ha… Isn’t it good when you recognise something.

      I think this one is the 70s, but I don;t know where it’s going to or coming from.

      Chicago to San Francisco … that’s a long journey. How long did it take?

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      1. The California Zephyr…….Chicago to San Francisco…….51 hours, 20 minutes. Serving Chicago, Burlington, Omaha, Denver, Glenwood Springs, Salt Lake City, Reno, Sacramento, and San Francisco. The route through the Rockies, across the Utah/Nevada Desert and through the Sierra Nevada Range into the Golden State is said to be beautiful. I’ve only seen it from 35,000 feet…….with the snow capped Rockies below, and then you see California in the distance as the High Sierra loom on the horizon. Would like to take a train and really see it someday.

        https://www.amtrak.com/california-zephyr-train

        https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/projects/dotcom/english/public/documents/timetables/California-Zephyr-Schedule-072017.pdf

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      2. Throughout American history, people have wanted to make the almost impossible trip from the cities of the East to California. It was once a months long trip by wagon across prairies and mountains, or a horrendous voyage in a ship through the Strait of Magellan around Cape Horn or across the Isthmus of Panama. Then the transcontinental railroads were built, and you could actually get to California. The trip between Chicago and Los Angeles became the route of the stars, connecting L.A. with Chicago and points East. The flagship train of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe railroad in that era was the Super Chief…..the “Train of the Stars” that traversed the Midwest and the desert southwest. Today, that train is Amtrak’s “Southwest Chief.”

        https://www.amtrak.com/southwest-chief-train

        The train route across the Mojave Desert:

        In the days before air conditioned cars and high speed superhighways, the drive across the Mojave on the “southern route” to California was the stuff of family holiday motoring legend. People would rig evaporative coolers on their car windows and carry lots of water and emergency supplies. “Last gas” and “last water” signs ringed the desert. People were often cautioned to drive the dreaded Mojave at night. Better than dying in the daytime heat of the desert…..your bones bleaching in the sun…..LOL.

        A car on the Mojave in 1943.

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        1. Was surprised to see that it was only 51 hours. Possibly because you have to arrive ahead of the 2.00pm Chicago departure and you don’t get into Oakland until after 4.00pm, it’s always been more like three days on the train in my memory.

          That 1986 train journey was my first trip to the USA and it was a brilliant way of seeing spectacular scenery that you wouldn’t see from the road. Also a good way of meeting people – the dining car was too busy to let single travellers have an individual table and the attendants didn’t have any time for British reserve, so you shared a table with complete strangers whether you liked it or not!

          The accountancy firm that I worked for at the time originated in Chicago and insisted that all new managers went on a one week course in nearby St Charles. The Americans took it all very seriously but everyone from the European offices treated it as a paid holiday (I managed a week in New York, the transcontinental train journey, a stop in Las Vegas to fly down the Grand Canyon and a few days in San Francisco without exceeding the travel budget!)

          I’d still recommend it as a journey, with the proviso that the return journey is a bit of an anti-climax and it’s probably better to do it one way and fly back from the West Coast.

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          1. It always seems a little strange that the trip to San Francisco is more than 10 hours longer than the trip to Los Angeles. A reminder that Reno, Nevada, is farther west than Los Angeles.
            I’ve never done it by train, but a trip to California with one leg the northern route to San Francisco, and the other leg the southern route to Los Angeles is a nice way to do it…..by either highway or railroad. Entirely different scenery along the northern route through the high Rockies of Colorado and the High Sierra of California…..vs. the southern route through the high Mojave desert of southern California and Nevada, and the high altitudes of the southern tip of the Rockies in New Mexico .
            The Santa Fe Railroad….now Amtrak in passenger service…..always used a Native American southwestern desert theme in their advertising and decorative elements.
            The southern route takes you through Flagstaff, Arizona, where a short side trip takes you to the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. The Painted Desert, the Petrified Forest, the old Spanish cities of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, are among the attractions. Lots to see on the southern route if you have the time.

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              1. Tris……John Denver does Atchison Topeka and the Santa Fe up nicely.
                The “southern route” to California is fabled in song and story. If you wanted to rub shoulders with the movie stars traveling to or from Hollywood, you bought a ticket on the Santa Fe Super Chief……the flagship train of the Santa Fe line. West from Kansas City through Topeka and Atchison in Kansas, and then southwest toward New Mexico and through the lands of the Navajo to Los Angeles.

                But if you were one of the migrants escaping the 1930’s dust bowl of the Great Plains, you got in a car and took US Highway 66 to the promised land of California……where maybe there was work in the orchards and fields. In “Grapes of Wrath,” Steinbeck called “66” the Mother Road.:

                “the path of a people in flight, refugees from dust and shrinking land, from the Dust Bowl’s slow northward migration, from twisting winds that howl up out of Texas, from floods that bring no richness to the land and steal what little richness there is. People come onto 66 from tributary wagon tracks and rutted country roads. 66 is the mother road, the road of flight.”

                US 66 followed a slightly more direct route out of Chicago than the Santa Fe line. Southwest from Chicago to St. Louis, where it bisects Missouri and Oklahoma and then west to California. It ends at the Pacific on the pier at Santa Monica. Highway 66 has a song too. 😉

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                  1. I like the song too Tris. I’ve driven the southern route, but sadly US66, John Steinbeck’s Mother Road, is no more. Mostly, it disappeared under the four lane limited-access Interstate routes I-40 and I-44, ….with the curves straightened, the hills flattened, and those towns mostly by-passed for the sake of high speed cross-country traffic.

                    But the states and local governments have often maintained and marked sections of the old highway’s original alignments, going as far back as the late 1920’s, as Historic Routes. So people can still drive some of the cracked and rutted pavement over and around some of the old hills and curves, and often over some of the old original “Rainbow Bridges.” (Concrete arch bridges named for their shape, not for their color.) I have even seen and met European Highway 66 enthusiasts who have come to America to drive old stretches of original US 66…..maybe even over an old Rainbow Bridge or two.

                    This is OK I guess, but I also think that these may be people with WAYYYYY too much time on their hands. 😉

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                    1. Tris…..Yep! Reminds me of a Woody Guthrie number named “Hard Travelin”that Lonnie Donegan did in a Skiffle style in the 1950’s. If you listen carefully you can hear a reference to “been down that 66” , and also down the “Lincoln Highway.” The Lincoln Highway was the first named transcontinental highway in the years before the numbered US highway system came into being. It was the northern route to California and terminated at Lincoln Park in San Francisco. (The eastern terminus was 42nd and Broadway at Times Square in New York City.)

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      1. I got a lift to a petrol station. Honest guv.
        Pandas were never involved in high speed chases, that was the job of the Rover jam pieces.

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  2. I remember the double deck train. I used to travel on it between Meigle and Forfar long ago to visit my grandparents.

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  3. 1 – A street, 2- a train, 3- a horse an cairt, 4- a memorial, 5- a promenade, 6- a polis caur. Did Ah get them a’ right? Is the promenade Gourock in Edwardian times, by any chance?

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    1. aye andimac, the promenade is Albert St, Gourock , at the start of the last century, possibly Victorian rather than Edwardian, he didn’t last that long, maybe 5 years.

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      1. Dave, the first pic reminds me of several long streets in Greenock, like Nelson Street – is it Greenock? I had a close look at the (very small) photo of the memorial and I’d guess, as we seem to be doon near the Tail o’ the Bank, that it’s the one to Highland Mary. I’m ashamed to say that in spite of many visits to The Port, Greenock & Gourock over the years, I’ve never been to see the memorial: I must remedy that.

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        1. Andimac, well spotted, it is greenock , Brisbane Street, Highland Mary’s memorial is in the Park, near the Blitz memorial I think. I’ll leave it to you to tell the listener just who Highland Mary was.

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          1. Briefly, “Highland Mary” was Mary Campbell with whom Robert Burns had an affair. There is some suggestion that they planned to emigrate to America but Mary died aged 23 at Greenock in 1786. The memorial is by John Mossman, one of 19th century Scotland’s most renowned sculptors, although he was, in fact, English. Some of his work can also be seen in Glasgow’s Western Necropolis.

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  4. Oh well she went and done it
    There must or should be a
    Psychological term for the
    Condition.
    A deeply flawed person. Becomes
    Prime minister and then as soon
    As the opportunity arises starts
    Military action on the flimsiest
    Excuse.

    Thus hopefully gaining the Churchill
    Aura of the leader alone against the
    World .
    British bulldog facing the enemy
    The Few fighting the many and in the case
    Of the Torys dead right The right wing
    Minority against the fair minded peace
    Wishing majority .

    Returning sovieringty to Westminster they said
    And then avoiding a debate and vote at Westmonster
    Sovieringty of the people they say and yet the Nation
    Of Scotland voted to remain .
    So where does leave the ideaa of sovieringty .

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    1. Absolutely bang on, Niko.

      They all need their war.

      They all need to show the world how big and important Britain is.

      And the French aren’t much better.

      I suspect she knew that if she recalled parliament, she would lose the vote. Remember Cameron did that.

      So she’s playing it safe because her judgement and that of her foreign secretary and the wee laddie that is her defence secretary, is second to … well, anyway

      I see Angela Merkel, a bit more experience and a bit more sensible, said NO.

      Still Angela doesn’t need a trade deal from Trump so she doesn’t need to creep up his backside.

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  5. Are we supposed to guess what these photos are? Or could you supply a caption. They are great but are meaningless to me without! I lived most of my life away from Scotland and need educating!!!!! Please.

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    1. Ah, well, the idea of it all is that people guess.

      Dave provides most of the pics and when people really don;t know, he tells them, but mostly people guess. 🙂

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  6. The horse and cart is a Flitting in Maybole High Street, probably the 1930’s.
    The builting now houses a fish and chip shop.
    For Danny, a house contents removal, all their worldly goods on the cairt. The men would be described as Carters, either they owned the rig or worked for the owner and just doing a wee homer.

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    1. Dave, thanks for the info that the flitting was in Maybole. I’d never have guessed where – I was intrigued by the rather grand dome in the background. Not so sure about the 1930s, mind you, largely because of the wee boay tae the left o’ the cuddy. he’s got bare spuds – nae shoon – ah’d a thocht mebbes 1910s 0r 20s, but wha kens. Ma ain faither used tae tell me how he an a’ his pals nivver wore shoes a’ summer, except mebbes tae the schule an that wis back in the 1910s. he aye said it wis guid for the feet no tae be in shoes a’ the time – said he’d nivver had a corn or callous a’ his days.

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