Le nouveau “British Blue Passport” sera fabriqué en France

According to The Sun (OK OK, I know) the new British Blue Passport, is to be made in France. But who knows, maybe it’s true.

Rumour has it that Jacob Rees Mogg is going to get Nigel to throw him into the Thames along with the next load of smelly kippers he comes across.

Now please, whatever you do….


Or as they say at the factory where they will be made…


Arrêtez de vous moquer des passeports bleus


87 thoughts on “Le nouveau “British Blue Passport” sera fabriqué en France”

    1. Well, you know “Le Soleil”, erm, I mean “The Sun”. France, Netherlands, Mali, Bhutan… it’s all just foreign to them, so it is possible they got it wrong!


    2. So maybe it’s “Die ellendige Tories nemen daadwerkelijk van de pis ‘uit ons” (loose translation) rather than “Ces vieux fachos emmerdeurs se foutent de nos gueules carrément”.

      Qu’ils s’en aillent se fair foutre, eux ainsi que leur foutu Soleil dégueulasse…

      (That last bit would be far, far too ryude to appear in English in a family journal d’opinions, d’actualités et de faits divers like this one, but it makes me feel better.)

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      1. Now, now, you’re just intimidating us with your extensive knowledge of farmyard foreign. I had to suffer ‘School French’ for years and years and then wasn’t even put in for the exam. Hence I hold a lasting grudge against that entire nation and have no desire to ever go there! I fear I may not be alone.


          1. It has been useful now and again to be able to read French when it’s on a technical subject where all the big words are recognisable or at least guessable, but when I occasionally came face to face with French colleagues (a) they always spoke near perfect English, and (b) refused point bank to converse in French, not that I blame them!

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              1. I retailed to a German friend the old chestnut about what you call someone who speaks three languages, trilingual and so on, and someone who speaks one language – quick as a flash, she said “French” before I could say “English”.

                Mind you, I once met a French student in Glasgow on his year abroad. As a Scottish provincial of very limited experience, the idea of meeting Pierre from Paris was quite exciting and I couldn’t understand why my Glasgow pals wrote him off as nuts. Meeting him was a real shock to the system since he had had a distant love affair with Glasgow since childhood and appeared to have learned “English” from watching Francie and Josie. His opening conversational gambit concerned the “real fright Labur goat in the Merryhill by – election”. One of the great language experiences of a lifetime, alongside meeting Sophie, the Icelandic English teacher who had done her year abroad in Aberdeen.

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                1. Ha ha, yes.

                  A friend of mine went to work for a while in Québec and when I spoke to him I could hardly make out a word he said…

                  Is that really French they speak!


        1. You’re right, though – and what a waste, not to learn anything and being made to die a thousand deaths from boredom throughout… and no piece of paper at the end of it. Well, the teaching wasn’t much good at my school either – I suspect all my French teachers must be safely dead by now, so I can say that. I didn’t learn nearly enough French nearly well enough there; I didn’t get to be dead good at it until much, much later.

          Still, it’s probably not as bad as in the States, where a translator colleague of mine spent some years teaching French at a college (university) in the Mid-West in one of those states beginning with an I. It took her a couple of terms, she said, before she realized that the students were under the impression that French was a dead language.

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          1. LOL. I think a lot of Scottish people think that.

            I taught some courses in French in Dundee, and at one point had a French mate (who spoke almost no English) visit. He came in to the class to see what we were doing, and while he was there we talked French to each other.

            The students were a bit surprised that French learning was more than an academic exercise, and that people actually used it to communicate.

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          2. Now I hadn’t heard that one before! No, rather the impression we got at school was that France was populated by rather silly people who were forever loosing their bicycles and stealing one another’s dogs, or was it the other way about?

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            1. As an American from the Midwest, I speak with considerable authority on this subject, having spent a year in high school French. To this day, I can say “open the window,” in French with considerable aplomb. The French do have a “thing” for their language IMHO, obstinately refusing to simply make up a new word when they need it, and instead, using several words that they already have in the language to convey the meaning. I’m told that the French have no word for the verb “peck.” In French, this single four-letter word becomes “donner de coupe de la bec.”

              Several languages and peoples share this tendency to make things more complicated than they need to be. I would suggest that only we Americans have the gift of stripping words and phrases down to their essentials…..making up new ones the instant that they are needed. (I would also include the British in this, if they didn’t insist on still using all those annoying and unnecessary “u”s in their spellings.) In many languages, there is the supreme silliness and monumental complication of pretending that nouns have gender. There are also all those “THE”s and “OF THE”s and “TO THE”s, instead of dropping all that and just using the words you need. In Spanish, “Missouri Patients Rights” becomes “Derechos de los Pacients de Missouri.” SIX words, when three will do quite nicely!

              Another matter is all those hypercritical markings…….or is it hypocritical markings? Anyway….all those annoying little marks and squiggles around the letters that people in other countries need to tell them them how to write and pronounce and decipher the meaning of their OWN language. Not so in no-nonsense America! Twenty-six good solid letters that stand on their own. And if you can’t figure out exactly what something means or how to pronounce it…….that’s just TOUGH! Live with it! The Brits are generally OK in this regard too, although I think they tend to use the little thingy above the “e” in “cliche”….presumably feeling the need to tell people EVERY FREEKIN TIME not to pronounce it as “clitch.” Which Americans have no trouble figuring out from context. Just sayin………

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              1. LOL, Danny.

                If only people would just be sensible and speak English, then of course, there would be no need for any of these “accents” (or hypercritical markings).

                After all only foreigners would need a é to tell them that its CAFFAY and not CAIF. For heaven’s sake, who would go to a CAIF.

                (Actually, people did used to pronounce it like that here but that’s cause they are thick.)

                At least the Spanish had the decency not to change the spelling of Missouri for their pacientes’ derechos. (OK, I know you can’t use apostrophes for genitive case in Spanish but you can’t blame a guy for trying).

                And there we have another example. I mean does anyone except a Frenchman pronounce it “apostroff”?

                Anyway, it is interesting to know that Patients HAVE rights in Missouri.

                As Trump is going to buy our health services maybe we can look forward to having them too!

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                1. Tris……Anyone who would go to something they imagine is pronounced CAIF are not the kind of people you would want to socialize with anyway. I hadn’t thought about “apostroff” actually. 😉

                  Even with a scrupulously perfect Spanish translation posted on the wall, a patient without money or insurance coverage in Missouri….or most anyplace else in the USA……can pretty much get lost. I think your “derechos” pretty much involves trying to keep you from dying until you can be shipped someplace off the premises.

                  If a guy named Trump, or one of his businesses, is negotiating to buy the NHS, I would urge caution. I could tell you some things about THAT character.

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                  1. Well, I suppose they do try to keep you alive until they can ship you off… That’s something.

                    I’ve heard bad things about the Trump fellow. I’ll watch out for him!

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                    1. I got the pish roundly ripped out of me by a Canadian for saying aluminium when it’s as everybody knows, aluminum.

                      Oh how everybody laughed at the stupid Scotch git.

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  1. Humph! Can’t be having with these newfangled blue passports. Whatever happened to traditional Black passports? The ones with cut-outs in the cover to show to show your name and number, and a stuck-in B&W photo inside?

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      1. Have you no regard for Tradition, Sir? What is the point of Great Britain without Tradition? And you could get your passport by filling in a form at the post office, mind you, where have all the POs gone these days? To the dogs like everything else in this bloody country, it’s just too humiliating to think that foreigners, (foreigners I say!) are actually doing things better now …

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        1. Faux outrage in East Renfrewshire.
          Jackson carless company expresses deep concern that Eaglesham hasn’t had a post office since September 2017, when the postmaster retired.
          He will now write a strong letter to Scotmid and McColl’s , to see if they might undertake the services.
          Bit slow in the uptake then is oor jack, to busy looking after the local fishermen in East Ren.

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          1. I’m not sure anyone wants a postmaster job. There’s a huge amount to learn and you don;t make much money out of it.

            Furthermore fewer and fewer things are done in the PO.

            Remember when they were busy with pensions and giros and car tax?

            I’d say it’s not a job with a future.

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      2. Seriously though, an EU passport would have been perfectly logical had we joined the EUs Common Travel Area, but the idea of having to get an EU passport to get into ‘Europe’ was simply beyond insulting. As for giving the state your biometrics and then having passports with electronic data, data they can see but you can’t … how long till the weans are all microchipped at birth?

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        1. It does speed up the passport-checking process in places that are on line – not in most of the world as far as I know, and not where there are power cuts – still most of the world, I think – but yes, I would like to know everything that’s on there too.

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        2. I think its main function was to allow you absolutely equal rights wherever you went.

          I once used the services of the French consulate, because the British one was so incredibly crap.

          After next year, crap or not, I’m stuck with the Brits.

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          1. I’m in favour of EU membership, I just wish that when the UK joined it had done some wholeheartedly and completely, rather than with this and that reservation. Crossing to France etc. should have been no more trouble than going to Ireland. Small wonder many Brits never really felt ‘European’, and hence in a sense, Brexit 😦

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            1. The Little Englanders always liked to be “semi-detached”. With mock-Tudor woodwork at the highest levels of government… Can’t have Johnny Foreigners coming in willy-nilly acting as if they belong here, eh, what?

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            2. True. The government here blamed so much on the Common Market and then the EU, that it put a lot of people off.

              I think to that the more liberal politics of a lot of the countries was anathema to some (mainly) English Tories.

              Naturally, the E£English immediately feel superior to most other nations. I’m really not sure that the Scots particularly do.

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              1. It’s only a problem among those in whom the Cringe is strong: obsequious deference and feelings of inferiority towards the Imperial Masters, haughty snobbery and feelings of superiority towards those not born to be proper (white, Protestant, Christian) Brits.

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                1. Nope.

                  I think we’re more internationalist. We are closer to France (the auld alliance) and of course we are a bit Scandinavian in our ways.

                  In general terms the English are more American.

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    1. Marconatrix……..As I understand it, there is some controversy about whether those old passports were in fact black OR blue. There is apparently confusion right down to the wording of the online application for obtaining a current British passport, which The Guardian reports this way:
      “The form asks applicants if they have previously held a British passport. Then they are asked to specify whether it was “a dark red passport” or “a black or blue passport”.”

      The Guardian has photographs of the old passport which certainly looks black to me…….but may have been considered dark blue. Certainly the blue color of the mock-up of the new passport that the Home Office issued actually LOOKS blue and not black.

      Who knows what it will actually look like of course when than damnable French-Dutch company actually prints it up for Her Majesty’s government. 😉

      Note that this issue has even made the pages of the august American newspaper “The Washington Post.”



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      1. From what I understand they were blue and they were black… at different times, of course.

        Naturally, and it’s nothing to do with the EU, we can’t have a larger passport with a hard cover, as there is a universal size and material dictated by some UN organisation based in Montréal (part of the Empire don’t you know?)

        Passports have to be readable by a standard electronic reading device.

        The proper stiff covered British Empire passports wouldn’t fit into the machine.

        So they’ll have a passport that looks and feels like anyone else’s.


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        1. BOY……this gets really complicated!

          Wikipedia puts this is some historical context in its article “British Passport.”
          Under the topic heading “The pre-1988 passport.” It says:

          “UK passport 1924
          A 32-page passport with a dark cover, commonly known as the old blue style”

          Then it shows a picture of a BLACK-LOOKING 1924 passport with cutouts. But if you look REALLY close, it does in fact appear to be a very deep dark blue. (Note the dark blue highlights on the left binding.)

          No don’t thank me. I’m pleased to help sort out this important matter of British passport blueness.

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          1. Oh… well…I was going to say Danke or Gracias or Þakka þér fyrir or maybe even Tapadh leat… But OK then…

            I dunno though… it looks REEEEEEALY Black to me.

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            1. Douglas……Glad to hear that! M31 surely makes a great desktop background. I just ran across that picture again the other day, and stored it in an easily retrievable photo directory. It would be my second choice for my desktop.

              For my background, I actually chose one of the Hubble Telescope Deep Field photographs. I chose one of those amazing images……from the beginning of time, with thousands of galaxies scattered like stars. Amazing to think that one of them is GNz-11……the most distant object ever photographed in the Observable Universe. At a redshift of 11.09, it’s seen as it was just 410 million years after the big bang, in light that traveled almost the entire age of the universe to get here. Lots of galaxies in that amazing picture with redshifts of 8 and above. Awesome!

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              1. Perhaps you could share that on trispw’s next Soppy Sunday? I think that sharing the stuff you have about astronomy and cosmology adds to this site – a lot. People, hereabouts, are interested in all sorts of things and broadening their horizons – that was a big bang joke – adds a lot to this site.

                I’d be interested to hear / read, what trispw thinks.

                For I have found our host to be amongst the most fair minded and actively encouraging folk on t’internet.

                Just saying.

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                1. Douglas……As they say in politics, I would like to associate myself with your comments about our Tris……..amongst the most fair minded and encouraging folks on the internet.

                  And what EVER plays better than big bang jokes about broadening horizons…..LOL.

                  Tris can decide whether he thinks that a picture of thousands of galaxies from the beginning of time is a good fit for Soppy Sunday. At best a niche interest. 😉

                  You can go to the NASA-ESA Hubble Telescope Website…..www dot telescope dot org…….click on “Images” and pick one of the image file options that comes up when you search “Deep Field”.


                  I chose a 279 KB file identified as “1024×768 Wallpaper”

                  NASA-ESA identifies this view of nearly 10,000 galaxies, called the “Hubble Ultra Deep Field.” The snapshot includes galaxies of various ages, sizes, shapes, and colors. The smallest, reddest galaxies, about 100 or so, may be among the most distant known, seen as they were when the universe was just 400 – 800 million years old, about 13.0 to 13.4 billion years ago. These are barely visible reddish dots in the image. The larger, nearer galaxies – the brighter, well-defined spirals and ellipticals – are seen as they were much later in the history of the universe – about 1 billion years ago.

                  The Hubble Ultra Deep Field image was made by pointing the Hubble at a dark, blank almost starless spot in the sky, and required 800 exposures taken over the course of 400 Hubble orbits around Earth. The total amount of exposure time was 11.3 days, taken between Sept. 24, 2003 and Jan. 16, 2004. After the light was gathered during the 11.3 day time exposure, this view of galaxies back to the beginning of time was the result.

                  For a REALLY niche interest, you might be interested in one of the little point-sized smudges of light that turned out to be the most distant object ever seen in the Observable Universe. It is a galaxy named GNz-11, and was observed by pointing an even bigger earth-based telescope at the spot and analyzing the light which was redshifted by expanding spacetime on its trip to the earth. It turned out to be redshifted at a jaw-dropping redshift Z number of 11.09, which places it at just 400 million years after the big bang, as seen in light which has traveled to the earth for about 13.4 billion years….close to the age of the universe. It may be the most distant object that will ever be seen with current optical telescopes. The only earlier feature of the universe that can currently be seen at redshifted radio frequencies, is the “Surface of Last Scattering”…….the expanding big bang energy plasma itself before the first stars formed……the oldest light in the universe.

                  Here is GNz-11, as a point of light in the Hubble Deep Field image, and as a magnified red blob……the most distant galaxy ever seen.


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                2. It’s not what Tris says that counts.

                  I am the Fluffy Muddle of this organisation. I make the tea, change the bed sheets, water the plants and drive the Bentley (although I doubt Fluffy would be allowed to do that).

                  But Munguin says, yes. If Danny emails me the pic (if he’s in agreement) we can share it.

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      2. I’ve still to check your links, but I have my old passport in front of me now and it is very definitely BLACK, and it hasn’t faded or anything since in been in an envelope at the back of a drawer for donkey’s years. (Why keep it? Because it states that I was resident in Scotland, so is the nearest thing to proof of Scottish citizenship, being official and all that.
        As for the new ones, seems like production hasn’t so much gone to the dogs, as gone to the Frogs, so who knows?

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        1. Tris and Marconatrix…….I hate to be insistent about this, but which are you going to believe? ME….who has researched this matter through Wikipedia from my home in the USA across the Atlantic Ocean……OR your own eyes……as you stare at an actual old passport or photograph of same?

          I must persist in my declaration that the old British passport is DARK DARK DARK Blue, and my source seems to be Her Majesty’s Government and the British Home Office…..as reported in Wikipedia and the post-Brexit British media. And in the face of that rock solid assurance, you would prefer to believe your own EYES?????

          In fairness to both positions on the matter, I see that there is considerable internet debate on the issue. This Twitter thread is typical, and is complete with pictures of the old passport whose owners always thought were black…….until Brexit and the Home Office told them different.

          Perhaps the second Tweet from Ray says it best:

          “That old British passport is either black or very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very dark blue.”

          Like Ray, I might have thought it was black too, had not Her Majesty’s Government told me about the “old blue style” it REALLY is. So lets just stop all this nay saying! Surely the British passport is and always was whatever color Her Majesty says it is…..or was. And she seems to be saying that it was DARK blue.

          😉 😉

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          1. I have decided to solve the passport colour conundrum once and for all, and have reached a rare degree of unanimity about the matter.

            Given the deplorable English habit of using adjectives in senses that any fool can tell are wrong, as in statements that are not so much oxymoronic as simply untrue – such as “public school” – I rule that old-style British “blue” passports were in fact black, in the same way that hunting “pinks” are in fact scarlet.

            It occurs to me that I could be writing this ‘ere piece of nonsense using green electricity, but how would I tell?

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            1. Ed…..excellent comment! The example of the British calling their private schools “public schools” clarified the issue wonderfully for me. What could be simpler? The “old blue style” passports were in fact bound in black. What’s the problem? 😉

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            2. Ha ha.

              Well, if a man with a doctorate from the University of Antarctica says that they were black… they they must have been black. Even allowing for the fact that HM Home Office (which NEVER lies) says they were blue!



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          2. Oh… Well obviously, if HM government says it was blue then, erm, blue it must, erm, have been.

            Matter settled.

            I mean especially the Home Office, which has simply never, ever ever, spoken a word of untruth in it’s entire existence.

            Matter closed!!

            🙂 🙂

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  2. The Torys. repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

    Surely this is a success of the Free market
    And should be praised by the scum Tory
    Or do they want the British people
    To pay more for the sake of Racist

    Cheaper shoes etc (can you eat said shoes ?)
    But no value for money passports er ! Why not ?

    Save £ 50 million for the NHS maybe

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    1. Yes. I heard Hancock on the radio this morning saying that the advantage of being out of the EU would be that we could stop putting contracts out to tender… and pay £50 million more.

      It reminded me of the time that London was fined for having dangerous levels of pollution (worse than Beijing) and this guy on teh radio said… well, soon we’ll be out of the EU and we won;t have to pay for that.

      Of course, what joy, to be able to pollute as much as we want and cause more deaths…

      Oh the Freedom.

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      1. Remember the howls of outrage when Johnny Foreigner refused to allow in our BSE-tainted beef, and John Gummidge? Gummer? shoved a proper British beefburger into his daughter’s cakehole to prove that proper British beef was “safe”? How very dare those Johnny Foreigners!

        Remember when, after decades – centuries, even – of stern warnings against drinking the water anywhere abroad in Europe,except maybe in Germany, Switzerland and Austria – Johnny Foreigner demanded that we proud Brits stopped using a certain product as a seal / jointing compound between sections of cast-iron water main because it contained known carcinogens? Oh, the howls of outrage! How dare Johnny Foreigner try to prevent us poisoning ourselves!

        Tories don’t like regulations; some of them don’t like’em at all, any of them, for reasons of libertarian dogma and doctrine, but for most of them it’s simply a dislike of anything that stands between them and making a quick buck, yen or quid at the expense of the commons, i.e., the rest of us and the environments – built, natural, social, economic – that we all live in. That’s what they’re all about: their own private luxury, and public squalor for those of us who can’t afford it.

        Well, bad cess to them, I say…

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        1. Well, soon we will be free to do things the Great British way.

          None of the soft political correctness.

          Get up that dodgy ladder. Work unprotected with poisons, and dodgy electrical equipment. Like proper chaps do.

          Ho hum.

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  3. How tickled I am, and we thought Ken Dodd was dead.
    What an Ironic day here in Unionist neverland.
    Mother Theresa is going to tell the World that Putin is the biggest threat to Democratic nations
    Sammy Wilson says “What self respecting Country would hand over its natural rsources to another to manage”
    De La Rue , the company, not Danny, tells us it’s unfair that weve lost the contract to produce Blue Passports in Ireland.
    Englandland cricket team bowled out for 58 runs by a New Zealand team, and R4 spends more time discussing that.
    The Younies don’t do self appraisal then.
    Roll on Freedom

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    1. LOL. I noticed R4 obsessing over a bad result for the English cricket team.

      I wonder that Mrs May isn’t close to Putin. She seems to like other dictators and they are both hellbent on getting Brexit.

      Maybe he told her off for running through that farmer’s field of corn…

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  4. Tris, une petite chose mais à moi-même –

    So, Johnny Foreigner, pray what do you
    think of our passport so wonderfully blue?
    No longer the dingy dull red that you knew,
    symbolic of control by the foul E.U.
    Now it’s true blue British: it sets us apart,
    this new blue passport, so dear to my heart.

    Ah oui, Monsieur Anglais, your new passport of blue
    will ensure that the British are at the end of the queue;
    and remember as that queue does so slowly advance
    that your brand new blue passport was made here in France.

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  5. Getting worse for the free trade Torys

    Laura Kuenssberg
    If you are following passport gate (don’t blame me) – govt sources say the saving to taxpayer is £120 million, not £50 million. It’s also worth knowing that some (but no more than 10pc) of De La Rue’s passport production is in Malta, not in Gateshead
    11:27 am · 22 Mar 2018

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  6. As you bravely go waving your new blue passport, while marching triumphantly into a brave new post Brexit world you might pause for a moment to tearfully reminisce about times gone by.

    You may gaze wistfully at your wee blue official British book complete with your photie and proudly think. I used to use that to visit other countries that I can’t afford to go to anymore.

    Ah, the good old days.

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  7. It’s the Symbolism that’s all wrong says
    Bill Cash reveals everything .

    Reality not allowed in Brexit Britain
    Or should I say fake Brexit.

    It’s not another referendum we need
    But another general election to clear
    The air and we can all see were we stand
    And make decisions accordingly.

    And if Bill cash’s lot comes out on top

    Didn’t someone once say

    The Arc of Scottish history is long but bends towards

    Or something like that

    Cue Conan or brownlie to enter blog
    And hurl slanderous abuse at me an
    Everyday occurrence Ho hum !

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      1. There used to be a rather fishy chorus that went (IIRC) :
        “Now the very best fish are soles, the finest of fish are soles,
        Out of every fish you might put on a dish,
        The very best fish of all …
        Are soles! Are soles!”

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        1. And what a name! Bill (as in dollar), Cash (as in, well …cash). I’d like to see someone with the name Lewis Change or maybe Penny Farthing or even Forte Pence or, best of all, their poor relative, Noah Tosser.

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  8. The British passport was created at the height
    Of the empire the idea of carrying a BLACK
    Passport would of been anathema in an
    xenophobic Racist Empire worshiping
    Great Britain .

    And that is why it was always
    Known as a Blue passport

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