YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THIS

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Our old mate, Niko, posted on the last article.

I’ve known Niko (as a commentator and blogger) since 2009 when I started the original Munguin’s Republic.

He has always been a staunch unionist. And that was fine. There has been banter back and forth between him and many Munguinites, mostly good-natured… mostly! But no matter what happened he stuck rigidly to his belief that Scotland was better off in the UK.!&2

So, to put it mildly, it was a surprise …well, nay, a shock, when he announced today that he would:

“… take down my beloved Union Flag
roll it up place it in my bottom drawer
FOREVER.

And fly the saltire join the yes brigade
but (never ever the SNP) and walk away
from the Union and never ever look back
ever…”

As I said, in reply to his post… Welcome, Niko. I hope you find a political niche which will reflect your values, whether in Labour for Yes, or the Greens, or another YES group. It’s not that easy to change your mind about something as profound as this and it takes not a little guts to put it out there, especially on a pro-independence blog.

Anyway, you can read all of Niko’s comment on the last post.

The main reasons for his move from No to Yes are laid out there. You may as well read his version as any summary I would make.

If we had voted for independence we wouldn’t be in this mess. And, as Business for Scotland points out in this analysis, we’d be quids in.

Let’s not make the same mistake again. And little by little, step by step, we will get there.

One person moving over from No to Yes is important. We should celebrate it.

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30 thoughts on “YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THIS”

  1. Tris
    I’m in agreement with you, first independence, then sort out the politics.
    Welcome to everyone who comes over to support Scotland’s right to self government.
    If we can switch just a few more it will be a landslide.

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    1. Yes, Dave. The politics will sort themselves out and we’ll vote for the government Scotland wants, and the relationship Europe, Scotland wants.

      I like England very much. I grew up there, and I’ve no issues with them, but they overpower us.

      The proper place for government is Edinburgh and London is the place for our embassy.

      So let’s work at getting that happening.

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      1. Do we know which groups are working on the constitution? I just wish I could get involved, as I used to have to deal with the things in one way or another rather a lot. It could turn out to be difficult because (a) they are often not very well written in the first place, and (b) the translations into English were often Highly Dubious.

        The last one I contributed to was the Kenyan one, but just a few wee drafting suggestions as I didn´t have the energy by then – a draft had been published and submissions were solicited, you see.

        I objected to a bit right at the beginning that had God in it, and God don´t belong in Constitutions, though freedom of religion definitely does.

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        1. Well, you could write to the SNP and ask them if they are working on a Scottish constitution and if so is there a way to make suggestions…

          And whilst I too absolutely hold with a right to choose religion, I think god has enough to do without poking his nose into how people run their countries.

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        2. Whenever someone mentions a written Scottish constitution I always like to stir the whatnot and suggest that we already have a written constitution … the Declaration of Arbroath which is recognised worldwide as the oldest written constitution and also the basis thatwas used by the Americans when it came time to write their constitution.

          I always suggest our written constitution for the 21st century should start with the Declaration of Arbroath (in full) and then have a series of Amendments that would 21st Centurise the original Declaration of Arbroath.

          Shit well and truly stirred … stands well back ready for reactions. 😂

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          1. Now there´s a challenge … the authorities at Schloß Freeman are intrigued.

            There should be a signing ceremony, held at Arbroath Abbey, naturally, preferably by the light of a full moon, with all participants dressed in hooded robes and sitting on indistinguishable replicas of the Stone of Destiny.

            The tourists would love it.

            Seriously though … it might be a less taxing idea to take the Declaration and put echoes of it into the 21st-century Constitution. Echoes rather than direct references, I mean. We are going to mull it over, but are already thinking Preamble.

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  2. I;ve just left a long(ish) comment on the previous post but let me repeat here … welcome onboard the ship to Scottish independence Niko.

    The family of YES supporters/fighters cuts across every class of Scottish society and is welcoming to everyone.

    I hope you can quickly find your own personal niche within the YES family and I look forward to your future fighting spirit being added to the fight.

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  3. Wow. And welcome. I will read the piece later, cos I have to work. But if he is with us, he is welcome. Its not about SNP, its about the best interests of our people. And clinging to the shirt tail of a defunct imperial power who hate us even as we are cannon fodder for them, is a concept past its sell by date.

    Lets build a better country.

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  4. Regular reader here , just a quick question , if Niko has decided to join those of us who support independence , just how prevalent is the switch from No to YES ?

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    1. Hi Ricky. Nice to meet you at last.

      I don’t really know.

      I see quite a few people on Twitter announcing they’ve changed. That said, there may be some that are anti-European who have changed the other way.

      Wish I could be of more help…

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    2. I just saw this in reply to my Twitter ad for this page, Ricky:

      Craig Dempsey‏
      @SaorAlba59
      Following Following @SaorAlba59

      GREAT NEWS…I myself know 3 people who were no voters who now are ‘YESSERS’ including an 82-year-old who was a life-long staunch labour supporter!

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        1. I’m wary about opinion polls, Ed. For a start I really wonder how many 16-18 year olds do them, indeed how many 18-25s. Maybe there are plenty, but I doubt it.

          I agree they seem to be getting desperate.

          They just criticise EVERYTHING.

          I see that fool Iain (Don’t Sleep in the Subway) Gray just complained about young kids getting a free meal at school. He said households like the first minister’s would benefit most.

          Quite apart from the fact that the first minister doesn’t have any bairns, supposing she did, how would she benefit most?

          You benefit by the number of kids you’ve got… so unless she had 7 kids say….?

          And why does this man object to bairns being fed without the ignominy of being separated by ability to pay, and yet not mind that we are spending £200 billion on bloody Trident?

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          1. The pollsters are supposed to weight their samples properly, but it´s been pointed out often enough – not least by James Kelly over on ScotGoesPop! – that some of them haven´t yet twigged to the fact that Scottish 16- and 17-year-olds get to vote. As for the Scottish subsets of ¨national¨ polls – I´m tempted to say ¨fuhgeddaboudit¨, but if they´re not statistically insignificant (technical term), they´re pretty d*amn close. To within plus or minus 24%, anyway (I fail to specify whether that´s 24 percent or 24 percentage points, in the hope of confusing matters even further).

            I shall now segue seamlessly into my next completely related subject, which is the fool Iain Gray, and the fact that he is so renowned throughout the land, and his contributions to the debates at Holyrood so magnificent, that I had to look him up just now to remind myself which party or parties he is supposed to be in.

            My first reaction about kids getting free meals at school was to wonder what he thought he was talking about. There is a definite case to be made for the idea that blanket subsidies on things do benefit the wealthiest most – but kids are not wealthy people. It´s not as if giving a child a meal is going to grossly distort the national spotted dick market and put Tesco out of business. It is not as if we are living in an era when the paterfamilias went out to work and the materfamilias stayed at home and could give the weans their dinner when they walked home from school in the middle of the day. Blanket subsidies are bad when you are, oh, subsidizing the price of bread so that farmers find it cheaper to feed their cattle on bread than on cattle feed (that actually used to happen in the old Sov Union days), or making the price of petrol so artificially cheap that you encourage waste – and only people rich enough to own cars can benefit.

            No. Gray is not just a fool, but worse than that is the fact that I had to look up his party allegiance because his reaction against kids getting a decent meal at least once a day is so typical of, for example, American right-wing Republicans: they are so appalled by the idea that someone, somewhere may have maybe got something they weren´t strictly entitled to that they want nobody else to be entitled to anything at all.

            On the other hand, we shouldn´t be surprised, I suppose: another Margaret Thatcher reform that Blair et al. did not roll back was taking away school milk. Back in 2010, Nicola Sturgeon, then Health Secretary, was warning that ´Vitamin D is key to maintaining healthy bones. Young children have a high risk of deficiency and we are seeing an increase in reported cases of rickets in Scotland.´ (Story from the hated EBC: https://goo.gl/Ji9xd4.) The prevalence of rickets was a major reason for introducing school milk in the first place, of course.

            Vitamin D deficiency is just one aspect of malnutrition. And now the fool Gray wants to cut kids´ free school meals, at a time when something unthinkable since the Great Depression has become commonplace … for make no mistake, the soup kitchens of the 1930s were the direct ancestors of our food banks today. All in all, I am forced to conclude that Gray is not even a Red Tory, because his views are so bluish that he´s positively magenta. Remind me again, what was the Labour Party set up to accomplish, precisely?

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            1. Expertly put.

              Back in the day only the very poorest families got free school meals, and it was public. You had to take out money to the teacher to pay for dinners, and then the ones who got dinners but didn’t pay had to go up and tell the teacher which days they would be having meals. They were mocked for it. in the way that children mock people who are different. Cruelly.

              Since then of course things have become smart and kids are given cards. Hopefully ones that don’t in any way distinguish between who can and cannot pay.

              But it’s not only poor people who can’t. or don’t feed their kids.

              You only have to be around a school at lunchtime to see kids hitting the chip shop, or cramming pizza in their mouths in the street.

              You’ll also notice a lot of very overweight kids.

              Look at it this way, Tory Iain Gray, underweight and overweight kids are future expenses for the health service.

              And oh, look, rich or poor, you get you treatment, and hospital care and meal in hospital for nothing.

              Why should society bear the cost of that, Iain?

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