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MUNGUIN'S NEW REPUBLIC 
I think the fourth photograph is Great Western Road, Glasgow, looking West. The street name in the left foreground is Cecil Street, and the terrace opposite is Buckingham Terrace. At least, I hope so.
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Alex, you just beat me to it. The view looks much the same today, without the tramcars, of course. The cars and people’s clothing make me think it’s probably the early 1950s, but it’s hard to say. I notice the horse and cart in the left foreground – they were not uncommon in Glasgow even into the 1960s, usually used by coalmen and scrap collectors.
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I thought early 50s too, Andi.
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The Austin saloon (rear view on left) was late 40’s model (12 or 16 “6 light” saloon) so would go for early 50’s. By late 50’s, these cars could be seen advertised for as little as a fiver. The car behind the bus might be a 2 1/2 litre Riley, also from same period, looking at the sloping boot but there were other cars with similar profile incl Armstrong Siddeley.
Racking brain for station, which is in ex LMS territory (4 prefix to loco number in post – nationalisation system). The building might be of Highland Railway origin, the layout not unlike Aviemore – but I may be totally wrong !
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He he…
I love that you guys put so much knowledge and logic into working out the answers. Sometimes I know the place and dater… on other occasions I don’t. Just a pic I’ve seen and liked. I seriously have no idea where the station is.
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Yep, I think you are right.
Any idea when?
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yes
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Yes, you are right.
An interesting thing is the carriageway constructed of setts. Recently, a large pothole appeared close to the area shown in the photograph. The tarmac surface was pitted in several places along the length of the road, but this particular pothole went down to the setts which had been left in place to form a base for the tar. The setts were completely unworn and unpitted despite having been in use for decades before the tar was laid on top. We could do with such surfaces on many of our streets.
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Yes, granite beats the hell our of tarmac for durability. We have some setts here, not many left though.
Maybe setts with a but less of a bevel on the top, making it a bit smoother surface. Mind you, with the pot holes, who can tell the difference?
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Tris, second pic – the aircraft is a De Havilland Dragon Rapide, Scottish & Midland Air Ferries operated in the 1930s, mainly flying Glasgow – Campbelltown but also to Belfast and a few other places. Location of pic, no idea, too little background to guess.
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Good work. Dave sent me these pics, and I think that one was on Prestwick Beach. Mid 1930s.
If you’re reading this, Dave, maybe you could confirm?
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I think that the aircraft is not the Dragon Rapide, but its less elegant predecessor, the DH-84 Dragon.
The Dragon was based on a customer request for a larger, twin engined successor to the single engined Fox Moth and it retained the Fox Moth’s angular, untapered wing platform. De Havilland then went on to develop a larger four engined derivative, the DH-86 Dragon Express but, as well as increasing the size, they introduced metal fairings to add to the streamlining and, more significantly, a new tapered wing platform. The subsequent DH-89 Dragon Rapide was essentially a scaled-down version of the Dragon Express and, with its streamlined fairings and tapered wing platform, it looks much more elegant then the original Dragon (information from a lifetime of building plastic aircraft kits and Putnam’s “De Havilland Aircraft since 1909”!)
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Thanks for that Gordon. 🙂
Hope Dave is reading this and can give us a answer.
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Gordon, you are, of course, correct – it is the Dragon and not the Dragon Rapide, I really didn’t look closely enough at the wing configuration and Scottish and Midland operated the Dragon, not the Rapide. I too built many plastic aircraft kits but not a lifetime’s worth, although I think I still have a few unbuilt ones lurking in a cupboard somewhere. There used to be a nice Dragon Rapide, “Neptune”, of Federated Air Transport parked in front of the Marriott Hotel, Speke, which was once the airport terminal building. I wonder if it (the DH) is still there.
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The first photo is actually from the future. It had been taken a few weeks after the UK leaves the EU.
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LOL. Good one Wullie.
Princes’ Street, Edinburgh, post Brexit.
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Some more 50’s nostalgia; note how few cars there are.
http://movingimage.nls.uk
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What a great resource, Drew. Bookmarked. Thank you.
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I’m looking at some of them, and what strikes me most is how very formally everyone is dressed. Even on the works picnic, shirts and ties, and women in hats… Everyone would be in jeans or trackies or shorts now…
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At the dentist a few weeks ago, and was asked by the young surgeon if I was attending a formal function. I had to laugh and explain that a collar and tie was the normal, indeed expected, dressware when I first went to work in the 1950s. Just shows you how times, and clothing, have changed. And to think I thought I was all trendy with my italian three-button suit, and winkle-picker shoes.
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Ah Alex, remember platform shoes and two inch turn ups. What a prat I must have looked.
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LOL. The cooler you were at the time, the more ridiculous you look 20-30 years later. 🙂
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Don’t forget the shirt collars that could take someone’s eye out if you turned around too quickly.
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Bet you looked a treat!!!
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LOL
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You were, at the time, Alex.
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Tris, first pic – The Gorbals, Glasgow – taken by the incomparable Bert Hardy, 1948.
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Yep. Bang on Andi.
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That is incredible. I don’t think any of the old Gorbals exists today. I wish they had kept just one street.
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So many things swept away.
There was a place in Lochee (Dundee) called Tipperary. It was so called because the people who lived there were largely Irish labours imported by the Cox family to work in their jute mills. Just as well Nigel Farage never knew about them.
I’m kinda reminded of the description of the miners homes in Sons and Lovers.
The name was shortened to Tip, and it kinda suited the area.
But they’d have been fine houses, if they had been done up.
They tore them down and put up Multis…
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It’s really sad, isn’t it? Post-war planning has a lot to answer for.
I once saw a TV documentary that looked at a post-war plan to bulldoze the whole of Glasgow and build everything anew. It was very Soviet in its design and would have made Glasgow look more like Warsaw or Kiev. At the time it would have been at the forefront of design but we wouldn’t think that now. I’m very glad the council ran out of money and had to abandon the whole scheme.
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I agree. I had a rant not long ago on here about the idiotic gutting of the medieval centre of Dundee, knocked down and replace with a hideous concrete structure in the early 60s, which had to be knocked down again in the 1990s.
I too, am glad that Glasgow ran out of money. Just as well it wasn’t in the time of Blair and McConnel. They’d have PPI’d it and we’d all be paying for it for the next 5000 years.
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Tris, the railway station (3rd pic) is Free Street Brecon, long since closed. The locomotive is, I think, one of the many J Class 0-6-0s but the photo isn’t quite detailed enough for me to be any more specific as to which. Judging by the loco number, indistinct but 5-digit, it’s got to be post-nationalisation but specifically when I’ve no idea.
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LOL… What a man!
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The station in Brecon was a pre-Beeching closure on 31 December 1962. One of the first large towns not to be served by rail although the Beeching Report on 13th March 1963 would have many other towns not to have a railway station.
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Beeching, or rather the government he served has much to answer for.
Although, I can see that the railways were making such losses at the time. If only he could have looked a bit further into the future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Beeching
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J classes were an LNER designation while the loco number 4xxxx denotes ex LMS. Time could be anything between 1948 and possibly mid – 50’s. Didn’t consider the possibility that the railway scene was furth of Scotland !
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Magic
The picture of the DH dragon was taken on Prestwick beach, early 30’s.
Last weeks picture was taken at Renfrew Airport, same period, as well as passenger services to englandland, it was used to ferry films to the outlying cinemas like Campbeltown. Its art Deco cinema is being refurbished at present.
The Rapide version also had a landing light in the front fuselage.
As far as I know there is only ONE Dragon still in flying condition in the world, based in Scotland.
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Thanks, Dave. I wrote all that down when you told me and then promptly lost the paper.
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The great Western Road or A82 picture , the right foreground has a Ford V8 pilot, the centre f/g is a Jaguar, possibly a 1.5 litre since it appears to have only 1 fuel cap, the 2.5 had one each side. The left f/g agree its likely to be a big Austin, same bodywork for 12, 14 and 18 models, only larger engine capacity gave horse power.
Goes back to early days , Churchill when chancellor, introduced the Road Tax, initially for One year, to improve the roads, rate was set at £1 per RAC horsepower.
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That’s interesting.
So we have Winston to thank for road taxes.
Which reminds me, MOT and Tax next month… will it ever end!?
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The grille on the Ford looked familiar but had forgotten about the V8 Pilot (which reputedly could pass everything on the road except a petrol pump). Also I knew that there as some other make of car with the sloping boot design ( which did look a bit large and sinuous for the Riley) and Armstrong Siddeleys were pretty rare.
Enlightenment always appreciated !
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Indeed it is…
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Alas, the photies appear to have disappeared! (14 January, 12:35). According to the photo titles, it’s Brecon Station, as I’m sure has been pointed out already – your later photo of Tip came out fine, Tris, so obviously there’s a damned Unionist plot going on at WordPress to prevent us independentistas looking at historical photos in case we get a sense of the past or something…
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LOL.
I give up.
I’d not put anything past them, Ed.
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