Friday’s Fotos

 

n tram cork
Hint: It’s abroad.
n gwr5
This one isn’t though…
n dundee city square
This one is close to home. Maybe even Munguin’s great great grandad was strolling around here!
n for da weedgies
So, then Weegies… when was this?
n fort william
I suspect this was relatively recent, but any idea where?

 

49 thoughts on “Friday’s Fotos”

      1. The loco, No. 45407, is a Stanier Black Five 4-6-0, “The Lancashire Fusilier”, built in 1937 by Armstrong-Whitworth, Newcastle-upon-Tyne for London Midland Scottish. “A thing of beauty is a joy for ever.”

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    1. Well, as Mr. Munguin helpfully gave the photo file the name n-tram-cork.jpg, I expect that’s a bit of a giveaway…

      So… from my vast erudition and unrivalled googling skills, I can tell you that the Cork trams started up in 1898 and shut down for good in 1931.

      I hadn’t heard of the “Burning of Cork” – my bad – and I found the description of the treatment of Irish civilians in 1920 quite gripping in this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_Electric_Tramways_and_Lighting_Company

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      1. Damn. When I store the pictures for future use, I have to give them some sort of name.

        It was, however, nothing to do with the great one. He says I should use code.. and adds that if I’d had had an ounce of sense I would have known that! Bang goes the Christmas bonus.

        I’ll off and read the article shortly. Thank you.

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  1. The picture with the buses is Dundee, mid 1950’s, see slogan DRINKA PINTA MILKA DAY, looking north from Caird Hall over City Square towards the Law in the background. The tall building in the middle background is part of the D C Thomson empire. At the foot of Reform Street, the clock is still there at what was H Samuel’s – a favourite meeting point for dates in the long ago !

    Spike Milligan had his take on the slogan -” DRINKA PINTA INKA DAY. That’ll make you write.”

    The bus on the right may be one of the Corporation’s ex -London Transport vehicles. In my student days in Dundee in the early 60’s, I always thought that Dundee buses were all driven in manic haste, especially down Lochee Road. Many of the fleet were Daimler’s with ferocious pre – selector gearboxes.

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    1. DC Thomson have just done Meadowside up. They have moved offices back into part of the building, but I have a feeling the tower block is now flats. Good one from Spike Milligan.

      These old buses must have been real hard work to drive.

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      1. They had one of the old Routemasters – with the platform on the back – running on the 22 route here in Dundee a few years back. I can’t remember what it was all in aid of, but I remember being quite impressed by just how primitive it all seemed now: when I were a lad, buses like that were pretty much the norm – I remember them in Glasgow, I think. Perhaps some kind person can confirm whether I’m right or not.

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        1. Yes, the buses were all like that in the 50s.

          And when Mr Soutar was in his early days he bought a load of them from London and painted them in lurid colours.

          There’s a transport museum on the cards for Dundee. I expect there will be some Corporation of Dundee green buses, hopefully even a tram to see there.

          I’m not sure how much they could use them now. They were filthy things.

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  2. “This one is close to him. Maybe even Munguin’s great great grandad was strolling around here!”

    Gee. Antarctica sure was different before the ice…

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    1. LOL…

      Oh the Munguin family have always had a summer home in Munguin Towers, Dundee.

      No one with any sense spends the entire year in Antarctica!

      It should have read close to HOME. I hadn’t noticed the mistake until you quoted it. Sorry!!

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      1. Heh. I figured it was something like that, but I couldn’t resist.

        Love those tram (streetcar) photos though. Double-deckers were rarely, if ever, used over here.

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        1. UK seems alone in double-decked trams and buses. Funnily we never had that kind of train but on I’ve seen them in Europe. Parisian RER trains are mostly like that.

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          1. Isn’t that weird? UK has double-decked trams and buses but not trains, rest of Europe has exact opposite. Never thought of that before.

            If we have Soppy Sunday an Friday Fotos, is weekday politics now going to to be called Torrid Tuesday and Mad Mental Monday?

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            1. It’s just the Uk being its usually contrary self. Obviously double deck buses are a good thing, and double deck trains a bad thing. If only foreigners were bright enough to see that!

              I was thinking of Mad Mental Monday with the Maybot… but to be honest, I reckoned that that might be a little too much for folk to wake up to on a Monday morning.

              I suppose we could have Weak and Wobbly Wednesday. By that time in the week maybe folk would be less fragile.

              What do you think of the “deal” Ms Foster sent her to make?

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              1. Strong and stable Saturday?

                The deal is fascinating on so many levels. It signals the end of the UK/US FTA because the UK has guaranteed to adopt EU legislation on agriculture, while the US demands that FTAs include the adoption of US standards to help US farmers export hormone-injected beef. A bleak day for Liam Fox. It is also fascinating that the UK has finally capitulated on almost everything because they have guaranteed alignment on around 140 legislative areas, even in the case of no-deal. What is fascinating about that is there are no moves to dethrone her. The most rabid Brexiter thinks that the best the UK can expect is to be a regulatory annexe of the EU and they’re happy with that. It’s really too early to call but I see that as a developing pattern.

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                1. I imagine that our trade deals with everyone will be so affected.

                  But it’s always good to see that Foxy is having a bleak day, and that Nige is apoplectic. Shall we expect yet another comeback?

                  I don’t see Gove, IDS, Grayling, Patel Leadsom and that lot being happy. Maybe they are somewhat shocked at the moment and planning revenge.

                  I mean at least from what I can see, Brexit as in REAL Brexit is dead at least for now.

                  All that Britain has done is give up its seat at the top table and its entitlement to agriculture support, social fund support and structural fund support.

                  Norway has done that, but then Norway is so rich it doesn’t need help from anyone.

                  I don’t see this being long term. And they haven’t solved the Irish problem. They have just highlighted the fact that despite Ms Foster demanding that NI citizens have exactly the same terms and conditions as the rest of her Brit mates… they actually have the huge built in advantage of being European citizens and having that EU passport, virtue of being Irish!

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                2. Nobody wants to dethrone her because it is not possible for any leader to come out of this mess “alive”. She is a zombie leader until its over so she takes the blame. The others do covet “the ring” , but don’t want to be blamed for Brexit or for abandoning Brexit ( which is what I’d be betting on ). And on top of all that, the Tory Party is completely divided, as is Labour. So a leadership election will not solve the party’s problem ( crap leader ).

                  Its a pity it is so important to the economy, because it is a comedy play ( in several acts).

                  It is very important to realise that the Conservative rank and file are average aged 72 years. So about half of them will be dead when the shit really hits, but that age group is rabidly anti – EU. We are being driven into the rocks by a geriatric crew with a death wish.

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                  1. True.

                    I mean, who in their right mind (even politicians’ definition of that) would want to be in charge of this mess. There may be crumbs here and there, but by and large, no matter what they do there isn’t a happy ending.

                    Blame that idiot Cameron. but Maybot is being a useful idiot now, taking the blame. I can’t see her lasting.

                    If Cameron couldn’t see what was coming at him, no matter what the result, he’s an even bigger fool than I thought him.

                    No doubt too that the leave vote was in a large part down to older people voting for it…. and they weren’t all Tories.

                    Some younger people, who see a future of isolation and an inability to get the best out of being a part of Europe,.. as for example, I did.. are very bitter that people who won’t live to see Brexit (even more certainly now that we have no real idea when it’s going to happen) have done them out of an internationalist future.

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            2. The reason why The UK does not have double decked trains is that in spite of the track gauge being the same as in most of Euope and the rest of the world the British Loading Gauge is smaller meaning that it is v.difficult to construct practical double deckers which would fit bridges, platforms etc.

              Not long after WW2 the old Southern or BR Southern Region built an experimental double decker train but it didn’t last long.

              The smaller British Loading Gauge also had a detrimental effect on British Army Tanks as their size was restricted due to a requirement to be able to transport them by rail.

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              1. Fascinating Gus.

                Thanks. I had to look up loading gauge, but now I can see how that would affect the ability of British Rail to use the obviously taller train carriages needed for double decks.

                I wonder if the horrifically expense railway they are building in England (I read somewhere the most expensive in the world) will use a higher loading gauge.

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          2. Tris, double-decker buses were actually pretty common abroad in the past – Berlin, Chicago, New York, Vienna all had them. Adelaide had double-decker trams, Hong Kong both buses and trams. I suspect there were many other cities had them too. I think the continental double-deck trains are great (mind you, most European trains are better than ours) – I love travelling on them: it’s a great way to see the scenery.

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            1. I didn’t know that.

              I agree. M Mitterrand was far seeing with his train network. And, rare with a politician, he knew that he would be long gone by the time that the network of TVGs covered France and made a huge difference. As it was, he was not only an ex-president but also dead!

              However, his legacy is there.

              They glide over the countryside and they’re a great way to relax. Even the food and coffee beats the rubbish served here. And, of course, they are comparatively cheap.

              And by and large, they are on time. An oddity to Brits.

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            1. As I said to Andi, I had no idea they had them anywhere else, except maybe Hong Kong. I suppose it is logical that they would have appeared at places in the British empire. Almost undoubtedly the Brits would have sold them their old ones, at inflated prices.

              But I had no idea about the Netherlands.

              I see that more and more Scotland has single deck buses.

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                1. I think the only thing that keeps buses running in Scotland apart from at rush hours, is the free tickets given to people over 60. I suspect that the companies just couldn’t exist without them. Some of the buses now in Dundee are these tiny ones with maybe 16 seats.

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              1. Maybe, outside or even in the outer reaches of large towns, this would be more useful for the travelling public. More routes, greater frequency might benefit the travelling public and communities in general. More efficient vehicles might benefit the bus companies and the environment.

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  3. Er, George square prior to 1923/24. same reason. No cenotaph. There are no cars in the Otago Street one ( its corner with Gt Western Rd. But Sir William Arrol completed that bridge ( Kelvin Bridge ) in 1890. Armed with those two facts ( Arrol, kelvin bridge ) Google throws up pictures guy similar tae thon yin. Dated at around 1906. Arrol Motors were incidentally manufacturing cars at about that date, independently, in Glasgow, without state aid or FDI.

    We forget so easily the entrepreneurial past of our nation. A dependency culture is actively encouraged by the colonial power. I frequently bang the drum these days telling people of the Paddy Powers, the Ryanairs and the CRH Holdings which are all Irish, all over 5 billion market cap, and all recent Irish success stories. Independence will let us escape from foreign domination and take back our place in the world of enterprise and wealth creation.

    Alba Gu Brath!

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    1. True, David.

      Scotland had a reputation for being able to make anything.

      I keep asking both in real life and on Twitter (and never get an answer): why is it that people think that a nation in the North Atlantic with a population of 4.5 million, would be unable, not just to make a go of it, but to make a marvellous go of it? Have people ever been to Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Finland, Eire? Have they any idea what life is like there?

      How, you wonder, do these countries manage? And, in most cases, not a drop of oil.

      I’d suggest because they don’t have their lifeblood drained out of them to pay for prancing leaders on the world stage.

      When did you last see the President of Iceland or Ireland in the Rose Garden at the White House?

      Probably never.

      But they don’t have to go to war every time the POTUS tells them to. They stay at home and make sure that the roads are fit to drive on, and people’s wages are enough to cover the cost of food and housing, heat and transport.

      We could be like these countries, where life by Scottish standards, is between great and magical.

      Please, let’s do this soon.

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  4. My own preference would be to scrap HS2 and all around the country lift all the bridges and introduce double deck railway coaches. Expensive yes but there would be plenty of work everywhere, start om the high volume linesm almost double the capacity, give the passengers a seat tosit on. Thought the Dutch system was also high quality, fast and comfortable,, no one stands.
    Anyway it’s only Englandland that’s to get high speed rail.
    \there’s a great rail story about the new carriages not fitting Bristol Tempelmead, made too long to fit the curved platform created by Brunel.

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    1. That would make more sense, but I think Britain needs to follow Scotland’s lead and look at nationalising the railways. Privatisation has been a fiasco and it’s not like it’s saved us any money.

      The companies seem to take very little risk for the massive amounts of money they make.

      I’ve only once been on a Dutch train and, like you say, swift, efficient and no one standing. On time too.and tied into the bus services at either end.

      Mind. The. Gap! (of 3 ft!)

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  5. Climate change and more frequent high winds may be a problem for double deckers especially on exposed bridges.

    I live not far from Inverness and I can tell you that going across the Kessock Bridge in high winds is scary in a single decker, never mind a double.

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    1. I don’t think I’d like to do that. As I say there seem to be fewer of them in Dundee.

      I don’t often use them, but I have to be honest, I love being upstairs on a short journey, at least. You get to see all sorts of stuff you’d not normally see.

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