RANDOM THOUGHTS ON THE ELECTION

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Firstly, I’d like to say that once again today we’re thinking about the victims of terrorists. This time it was in Notre Dame de Paris on the Ile de la Cité, one of my favourite places to sit and watch the world go by.

Secondly, I’d like to mention that Robert Salmond, Alex’s dad, died today at 95 years old. So we’re thinking of Alex and his family too. Sad time, but it’s worth reading what Alex says his dad would tell him now.

As the election campaign draws to a close, we find ourselves in a very different situation from that which we expected when it kicked off.

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After telling us over and over that she would not call an election, Mrs Strong and Stable wobbled and called one. She was hoping, I’ve no doubt, to establish herself in her role (not with the EU, who are happy to negotiate with her based on the referendum result), but as prime minister and leader within her own party, which is split over Brexit among other things. Mr Corbyn was leader of a split party and miles behind her in the polls. What could possibly go wrong?

Well, try EVERYTHING!

It seems that being appointed by the Tory party, the least offensive of a really bad bunch, meant very little scrutiny for May, and the BBC and the Press, with the cooperation of members of the Labour Parliamentary Party,  were able to talk Mr Corbyn down.

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But the scrutiny of a general election campaign, particularly one which was unnecessary, has put both the potential prime ministers under the spotlight.

In the case of Corbyn, it has given him an opportunity to display that he can be calm and measured, even under fire… and that he never loses the plot (OK, except one time on the radio where he forgot one figure). And most of his opponents in his own party have at least kept quiet over the campaign. (Well, with some exceptions.) Corbyn has shone as a potential statesman.

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On the other hand, Mrs May, who has been standing on a platform of “strong and stable”, has made a mess of every appearance she has made; every interview she has done, and frankly, she’s become a laughing stock. As people have said, if she can’t face Corbyn in a tv debate, how will she be able to deal with the EU representatives?

 

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Theresa supposedly meeting ordinary people (who forgot to take off their rosettes) quite by chance in a café

 

I tend to think that people should be careful picking catch phrases like “strong and stable”. And before they chose them, they should be absolutely sure that they haven’t been used before. In this case, “strong as stable” was previously used by Adolf Hitler.  It would only have taken a few clicks on Google to find that out.

Now she’s come up with “Enough is Enough”. A reaction to the terror attacks that have plagued London and Manchester. Surely that would ahve applied after the first attack… Did she not think that THAT was enough? And again, it’s a massive pity (for her) that she didn’t check back to see if the phrase had been used before!

 

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That was the police protesting that Theresa May had reduced their numbers too far to provide a safe service. Then she pinched their strap line in reaction to what happened, possibly as a result of these cuts…

 

Whatever the result it looks very unlikely to be one anywhere near the massive majority that she was hoping for, well counting on,  when she launched this campaign. Indeed some polls suggest she will have a smaller majority that she has now, Some say even no majority at all. Her rivals are starting to count their support!

But as all politicians say, the only poll that counts is the one on Thursday. And on Friday morning, and not before, we will know.

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Finally, the 2015 (correction thanks to Hugh) result was amazing for the SNP. 56 out of 59 is an extraordinary achievement. It was never going to be able to be repeated. The Tories have been bragging that they may take 18 seats; Labour think that they might get some, as do the Liberal Democrats. SNP supporters should expect to lose some seats and should take it on the chin. When the press gleefully announce that the SNP and independence are dead in the water we’ll know perfectly well that they are not.

Scotland above all needs a strong voice in London. Brexit is about England (and Wales). They wanted it (very narrowly). We did not. But because of their population size, they will get what they want and we can go hang. We are not being listened to by London. None of the solutions proposed by teh Scottish government will be aired in the talks. No Scottish voice in negotiations. Only England’s. Scotland’s concerns NEED to be heard. We have friends in Europe, but when the negotiations start they won’t be allowed to hear what we say. We need someone like Angus to make sure that we are heard, loud and clear.

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In my opinion, Angus Robertson has been a superb leader in London and an excellent opponent to Mrs May, and Pete Wishart has been a staunch member for his constituency and put up a brilliant fight against the anti-democratic and expensive House of Lords. Let’s hope that they manage to keep their marginal seats. Scotland, and indeed Britain, is the better for them being there.

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57 thoughts on “RANDOM THOUGHTS ON THE ELECTION”

  1. Fantastic stuff!

    It has been an odd election. It was entirely brought about by Brexit yet barely ever mentioned Brexit. The few mentions of Brexit merely continued the lies of the EU referendum – Labour and Tory. All that has happened is that alarming and immediate problems have been kicked into the middle distance as though they don’t really matter.

    I have to admit that I haven’t paid attention to a UK election since 2005 so maybe this is normal now but the quality of debate has been really terrible. It looks like nothing was learned from the EU referendum. Is this what it is like now? Boris Johnson and his slurred ad hominem attacks. Party leaders refusing to answer questions. Managed press conferences. Empty (but still wordy) manifestos. Prevarication and back-tracking on policy. Presidential in style (where was Hammond when Tory tax promises became confusing?) I honestly don’t see the point in having campaigns like this.

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      1. I’ll ask him, of course, but I suspect he would only be prepared to run for some very high office… President maybe. Well, with his new hat, why not?

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    1. Thanks, Terry. Praise indeed given your own first-rate writing.

      Although this is the worst one so far, yes, this is the standard of debate in British politics.

      It’s embarrassingly low.

      It won’t surprise you to know that I don’t want either Corbyn or May as prime minister, and I wouldn’t let Farron near the percolator if a cup of coffee stood between me and dying of thirst.

      It was supposed to be about Brexit, about her and her strong and stable majority. Although as I said, a general election REALLY can’t do that job. The referendum did, and the EU accepted it as the democratic choice needed to trigger A50.

      It was therefore pointless.

      Latterly it has become about security, and May has suffered badly because she oversaw the drastic cuts that made us less strong secure and stable…and indeed she argues with the police over the cuts. They warned exactly what would happen… and it did.

      In Scotland, of course, they have made it about a second referendum.

      It’s not. The Green Party and the SNP put (dependent on the EU referendum result) a second referendum in their manifesti, and were elected by a majority. The Scottish Parliament held a debate and it was passed by a majority.

      No further discussion is needed.

      But then, these people have nothing else to say. No positive case for Scotland. Just blind slavishness to the London party. So they tried to make it about the Scottish government, their record and the referendum.

      Nicola has better than seen them off.

      So, the stupid woman made a massive error of judgement… not, by a massive margin, for the first time, and she will pay the price. I read somewhere that speculation is that if she doesn’t get a REALLY good majority, at least 80, there will be a coup d’état. At present polling, she will be incredibly lucky to get anything like that.

      Quel dommage!

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      1. I want to see the Tories do badly but at the same time I don’t particularly care if Labour do well. Winning this one might turn to be a bit of a poisoned chalice, anyway.

        You just pointed out something even weirder: the election refused to settle something that needs desperately to be settled and then went on to propose that something that is absolutely 100% settled still needs to be settled. Crazy times.

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      2. Like I say. That is their idea of politics.

        There’s no intellectual depth. It’s all sound bites. Everyone in the Tories says the same things. This week it money trees. “There isn’t a magic money tree”. But of course there is when Westminster needs doing up, or banks need bailing out, or the Queen needs her palace re decorated.

        It’s just when ordinary old people are being refused nursing, the health service is starved of money, the police are short of manpower, that the money tree suddenly becomes extinct. Like climate change wiped it out.

        It’as all so tacky. Designed to appeal to the non thinking.

        Its utterly sickening.

        I can’t wait for it to be over.

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  2. Feartie McFeartie is a walking disaster.

    She is terrified of REAL ordinary voters. (those who do NOT wear Blue rosettes) On the rare occasion that she does comes up against such a pleb she always comes off second best.

    I’ve just seen papers review and surprise surprise Feartie is going to make changes to the Human Rights of people in this country as of Friday. This plan, I’m sure we’ve all heard this before by the way, is an alleged response to the latest terrorist attack in London.

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  3. Tom Paine once defined democracy in these terms: “a species of demagoguery, wherein clever charlatans, making promises as enticing as they are impossible to fulfill, win for themselves unwarranted power and wealth, persuading gullible people to discard their liberties for a secret tyranny masquerading as public freedom.”

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  4. Could someone tell her *feet in skinned jaguar kittens* isn’t a good look?
    As for slogans, she hasn’t re-used “guns before butter” yet. Although her spiritual boss did in a disingenuous statement. (Saudi Arabia)
    “The Soviets put guns over butter, but we put almost everything over guns.” HP sauce indeed.

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    1. Her husband chooses her clothes for her. He obviously has absolutely zero taste. But of course they are from the sort that like hunting, so I dare say being in jaguar kittens is probably not as repugnant to her as it is to normal people.

      I’ve always meant to do a post on the inappropriateness of Mrs May’s clothes. I reckon I’ll be accused of sexism, but if David Cameron had worn ridiculously inappropriate stuff I’d have had a go too.

      Slogans and catch phrases never work for me. In the case you make it is so clearly a lie.

      Education, education, education…aye right.

      Prudent.

      Froth and bubble.

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  5. tris and the nat ne’r do wells
    For once in a very long time I will
    vote Labour without holding me nose
    and it gives me a sense of enormous well
    Being (parklife).

    No doubt just as you rascals feel in your
    seditiously voting snp ways..

    Anyways I wish you well but not success
    perhaps ?

    ALL THE PEOPLE
    SO MANY PEOPLE
    THEY ALL GO HAND IN HAND
    HAND IN HAND THROUGH THEIR PARKLIFE

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  6. And with her latest threat to leave the European Convention on Human Rights, (E.C.H.R), it makes you wonder where the destruction of our society will end if this obnoxious woman, and her despicable party, are returned to power.
    And yet it seems that millions of people are going to do just that, tomorrow. Why? Turkeys voting for xmas seems very appropriate.
    They don’t seem to realise that ” the nasty party”, to quote May’s own words, don’t have the best interests of real people at their heart, that is if they had one, which from their actions they patently don’t.
    With the economic disaster of Brexit waiting in the wings, why anyone with one iota of common sense would trust this bunch of intellectually deprived idiots to run a Government, never mind trying to disentangle us from the E.U, is not thinking straight.
    Unfortunately for us, the people of Scotland, we are still part of an increasingly dysfunctional U.K, only being saved from some of their worst excesses by a political party who actually care for us, not that some folk here can see that, or at least, don’t want to acknowledge that fact.
    Roll on the second Scottish Independence Referendum.

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    1. Yes, the terrorists have played into their hands. They’ve wanted to ditch all this human rights nonsense for a long time.

      Of course the terrorists want to remove our human rights; now the government will do it for them.

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  7. A few comments from America at this historic time:

    Excellent piece! Even though Niko considered it rubbish……or maybe didn’t.

    Loved the quote from Tom Paine, who was English-born and got here in 1774 just in time to write immensely important pamphlets for the revolution. But while he loved revolution, he seemed to consider governing a bit of a bore. So he went to France to preach another revolution. James Monroe, the fifth American president, used his connections to get him out of a French prison. So Paine escaped the guillotine.

    It had not occurred to me until I read this, that from an American perspective this will be the FIRST actual election (in any democratic sense) involving Theresa May. We American constitutionalists of course approve of almost nothing involving UK politics and governance. To begin with there is the simple fact that you don’t HAVE one…….a constitution that is…..and just make it all up as you go along. More specifically, there is that crazy “family-that-breeds-heads-of-state” thingy called royalty. NOTHING could be crazier than that!……..well…….EXCEPT for the business of allowing a change of party leadership to choose your head of government without an election of the people.

    So it will be interesting to see if Theresa May becomes something she has never been before……..an ELECTED Head of Government!

    Someday maybe Britain will pay attention to the Americans who have shown them the way in almost all things. The American system has NEVER produced an unworthy head of state and government who would sow discontent and turmoil among the body politic. 😉

    I think I read once that Alex Salmond told the story that when he was first seated as an MP at Westminster, his father didn’t come to see it because he refused to set foot in the “English” Parliament. But that later of course he was on hand to see Alex seated in the Scottish Parliament and chosen First Minister.

    I couldn’t immediately find a conformation of that story about Robert Salmond, but I did discover that while his wife (Alex’s mother) was a Churchill supporter, Robert thought that Churchill should have been hanged. Actually his position was that “hanging was too good for that man.”

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    1. PS: Yes, I know that the British Head of Government in the parliamentary system is not directly elected. But you know what I mean about Theresa May and a democratic election. And yes I know that the Brits insist that they DO have a constitution but that it’s simply UNWRITTEN. Or an alternate funny story is that it’s written down in all sorts of documents from Magna Carta to acts of Parliament. And then they will try to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. 😉

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      1. PPS Tris: I liked to see old Ben Franklin in the comments too. Ben and Tom Paine both had a way with words, but Ben usually got the job done with fewer of them.

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  8. @ Jake……You raise an excellent point about what can happen when self-serving politicians hear the clamor of “keep us safe and secure.”

    The PM stood on the steps of No. 10 and declared “enough is enough.”
    And I read in the Telegraph: “Theresa May will start work on toughening anti-terrorism measures on Friday if she is re-elected, she said last night, and promised she will not let human rights laws stand in her way.”

    Our British friends would be forgiven if they have chills down there spines upon hearing this from a head of government of a sovereign parliament unencumbered by constitutional constraints or a Bill of Rights which endows supreme constitutional authority to human rights laws that no elected assembly can negate.

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    1. Apart from new emergency powers, and pulling out of international, or at least European, standards in relation to human rights she’s going to kick off Brexit with a Great Repeal Act. This Act will effectively give her the ability to change, make and create laws using statutory instruments, secondary and delegated legislation…and this can and will be done without parliamentary debate, scrutiny or a vote. What we are witnessing here is one of the biggest executive power grabs since the English Civil War.

      But, keep your eyes on events in Catalonia this week. These guys might just have found a way to finesse a referendum for themselves despite being denied/blocked by the Spanish Government. We might learn a thing or two.

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      1. Palpatine is my “go to” guy for tips on how not to run the universe.

        “The power you give me I will lay down when this crisis has abated. And as my first act with this new authority, I will create a Grand Army of the Republic to counter the increasing threats of the Separatists.”

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      2. @ Jake…….From what I know about parliamentary government in a “constitutionless” Britain, a power grab by a PM should be a fairly easy thing to do in a time of public fear and confusion. Politicians will always pander to people’s fears, and all you would need for “emergency powers” is to get a majority vote in parliament. I’ve occasionally heard about human rights guarantees based on membership in the EU, but whether those provide serious legal restraints on a supreme British parliament has never seemed clear.

        There was some commentary here about some comments she made about restrictions on social media. The irony being that she might have to work with American based social media companies based in California, where she would have to deal with the US constitution’s First Amendment…….something that PM’s don’t have to deal with at home.

        The orange faced moron that we elected president has been beside himself trying to get some relatively simple travel bans imposed, and being blocked at every turn by federal courts on constitutional grounds.

        Palpatine certainly provides a blueprint on how governmental power grabs could work in a “crisis.”

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      3. @ Jake…….And you write: “she’s going to kick off Brexit with a Great Repeal Act. This Act will effectively give her the ability to change, make and create laws using statutory instruments, secondary and delegated legislation…and this can and will be done without parliamentary debate, scrutiny or a vote. ”

        This is TRULY frightening. That she can possibly pull this off WITHOUT even a majority vote in parliament.

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      4. Danny and Jake: Interesting discussion there.

        Amazing though it is, all you say is true.

        No constitution; nothing to stop her (or him) doing whatever they want, because as we’ve seen they can use statutory instruments. And their excuse is valid. 40+ years of legislation to be dealt with and no time to debate it.

        We are heading for a dictatorship. And the most likely situation is that May will be a titular head.

        Of course, half her party loathe her, but they are so desperate for power that they hide it. She won’t have an easy ride.

        But this is the Tories’ great chance to change everything.

        If they win tomorrow we are completely stuffed.

        Nick Clegg has brought up again the issue of people here being able to retain their EU citizenship. Of course, it won;t solve all out problems, but I’d sure a hell like the safety net of European protection if that nut case woman decides that she can’t fight off her hard hard right Ukip racist wing. IDS, Loathesome, Gove, Patel, et al.

        Truly, the only good thing about this election is that it will drive people to the independence movement as Britain becomes more and more of a mess.

        The lack of a real constitution is a nightmare. We are apparently basing rights and prerogatives on an interpretation from, at best, law lords, at worst, Attorneys General.

        I’m simply scared of the future.

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      5. First, thanks to you people for the high quality of the debate. It’s very refreshing.

        I share your worries about the likely conduct of the regime from Friday on, and even more so post-Brexit. I am as sure as I can be that the fragrant Ms. May aims to curb Holyrood’s powers as far as possible, and after Brexit, may even want to shut it down completely. If we accept her argument (hah!) that “Now Is Not The Time” for a second independence referendum and all her to delay it until after Brexit, then, if she “allows” it at all, she is sure to suppress the vote by disenfranchising 16- and 17-year-olds, and of course any of our fellow Scots from elsewhere in the EU.

        May is an authoritarian, in fact a fascist. Do a bit of a mental update and adaptation for the 21st century UK, and I think you’ll agree that she and her regime do indeed pretty much fall in with the fourteen defining characteristics of fascism listed below. I extracted the text from http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm.

        “…

        Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

        1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism – Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

        2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights – Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

        3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause – The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

        4. Supremacy of the Military – Even when there are widespread
        domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

        5. Rampant Sexism – The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

        6. Controlled Mass Media – Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

        7. Obsession with National Security – Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

        8. Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

        9. Corporate Power is Protected – The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

        10. Labor Power is Suppressed – Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

        11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts – Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

        12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment – Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

        13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption – Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

        14. Fraudulent Elections – Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

        …”

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      6. Hell Ed. That is an interesting read.

        I’ve been careful about not calling the Tories out on this, but there are a lot of these characteristics which seem to reflect what we are seeing and can expect from her regime.

        I’m sure that she will try to take away power from the devolved administrations. Us being allowed to have different, fairer polices will not be tolerated. At the moment it tends to be channelled into hatred for us (because we live high on the hog on English taxpayers’ money!)

        But in the longer term the divergence of our two countries is pretty unmanageable on a long term basis.

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      7. Blast, I wish it were possible to correct typos after posting! Second para., for “all her” read “allow her”.

        Please make allowances for any other stupidities I may have committed in my text…

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  9. I do hope Angus wins. He has been excellent at holding the Tories to account which is why they want rid of him. But if the people of Moray replace him with that Tory eejit of the multiple jobs – hell slappit into them. Angus will be found a role and there are plenty others in the SNP who will be returned and could step up to the job. If May is PM on Friday she may face the prospect of Alex Salmond across the dispatch box for example.

    Me I’m resigned to having Tory MP. I though Blair McDougall might split the Unionist vote but apparently he’s tanking. I hope I’m wrong but… Kirsten Oswald has been hard working but unless the unionist vote is split she’ll not win. I would LOVE Carmichael to lose – I can but dream. Not long now.

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    1. I hope Angus stays, but if he doesn’t, as you say, she could find herself up against Salmond.

      She won’t like that.

      As you say, I’m sure there will be a strategic role in Edinburgh for Angus.

      I’ve been lucky to have an SNP MP for years. And I’ve been to see him about things.

      I can’t imagine having to go see a Tory. I suppose they must do the job, but you kinda feel that they are very unlikely to give a damn about little people’s problems.

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  10. Tris

    Well it’s nearly all over now and to be honest it has been a strange one to say the least. Corbyn has surprised everyone, most of all the very very quiet Blairites in his own party and the population at large. The yoon media have thrown everything at him and he has held his own, and done better than anyone could have expected. Theresa May has hidden herself away from most people and seems to have only met the faithful, this has not only not been challenged by the media in the main, but the public in some ways seem to have accepted it. She has been pretty awful though and is by far the weakest Prime Minister in my life time but also the most dangerous as she is being led by the likes of Davis etc, she is not in control of her party, they are working her from behind, puppet on a string.

    In Scotland Nicola Sturgeon has done pretty well against a pretty much 99% hostile media and has tried to campaign on Westminster issues, Davidson has avoided Westminster issues like the plaque and only campaigned on a referendum, Dugdale has been shocking overall and I don’t even know what she has been campaigning on, Rennie has been Rennie, pretty useless but hasn’t really upset anyone too much but is all bluster and shit, another who has also avoided Westminster issues but more because he doesn’t know what they are, like Farron, and their stance on Brexit makes them look like clowns. Patrick Harvie and the Greens, no coverage at all but standing in 3 seats is not helping their cause.

    The result, I think the SNP will hold up pretty well but they will lose some seats to the Tories and maybe 1 to Labour. The Lib Dems could take 3 and possibly the return of the disgusting Tory Swinson, gravy train and all. The Greens won’t get any seats but we know that. The Tories will win in England I suspect, they will get more of the shamed to admit it vote than most suspect but it might be closer than any of us think, I hope so for all our sakes. Overall it’s been pretty shit, over shadowed rightly by Manchester and London, handled badly by May, but the nutters like the guys on BBC QT will probably be happy that her response is to rid us of human rights. I’ll vote for Chris Law even though I have found him to be too low key and disappointing in many ways, Jimmy Black would have been a better choice in 2015 but he gets my vote as YES is all that really matters to me now to be honest in the political sphere. I’ll stay up too late to watch some of the results, I’ll moan about being tired but hopefully happy on Friday and brick it that I have the Dentist at 9.15am and I hate the bloody Dentist.

    Bruce

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    1. Spot on, grumpyscottishman. The bit that chills me, though, is your reference to “the disgusting Tory Swinson” – I’m in East Dunbartonshire and the prospect, only too real I fear, of this pariah being elected drives me to despair. I could paper my walls with the avalanche of leaflets she’s having delivered but, frankly, if the paper wasn’t so shiny and harsh I can think of a better use it could be put to. If the voters of East Dunbartonshire are stupid enough to allow this careerist turncoat to represent them again, the old simile, disgusting as it sounds will be only too apposite – like a dog returning to its own vomit.

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      1. Andimac,
        You’ve set me off again!
        And you’ve no one to blame but yourself, what with your talk of dogs and their vomit!

        The Gods of the Copybook Headings

        AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
        I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
        Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

        We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
        That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
        But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
        So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

        We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
        Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
        But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
        That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

        With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
        They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
        They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
        So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

        When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
        They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
        But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

        On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
        (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
        Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

        In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
        By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
        But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

        Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
        And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
        That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

        As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
        There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
        That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
        And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

        And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
        When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
        As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
        The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

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      2. Andimac
        She is their target seat and number one choice, Rennie will do anything to get elected again. I’ve seen how the Scottish Lib Dems work and she is one of Rennie’s pets. Why is she even standing here when her Tory MP husband lives and represents an English Constituency, not planning on spending much time in East Dumbarton is suspect. I can’t stand her.

        Thanks for commenting.
        Bruce

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  11. Danny and Jake:

    I wrote a reply to you and it disappeared. Thanks a bunch WordPress.

    More or less it said that I enjoyed your debate there.

    I’m terrified of what is going to happen. 40+ years of EU-inspired legislation is going to be repealed and bits of it are going to be added to UK legislation. But as Jake says, no scrutiny, no democratic process. MPs won’t see it.

    It will be done by statutory instrument, one of the ways that the barely democratic House of Commons gets around scrutiny. (Another being a Privy Council, which requires only three members to be quorate.)

    It is probable that in all of this Scotland and Wales will lose powers which used to be part of their remit. In for example farming and fishing. The EU part of the control will revert to Westminster.

    Scotland will become less powerful. Decisions will be made in London by a majority of English MPs on our farming, about which they know absolutely NOTHING.

    I’ve no problems with the government being extremely harsh on terrorists. But I worry about May getting her hands on our Human Rights. She herself is an incompetent. Her tenure in the Home Office saw catastrophic decisions made. In my mind there is no doubt that she tried to cover up the sex scandals that affected the high and mighty. Either that of she truly is the most incompetent minister that ever took office.

    The power that will be in the hands of this woman is fantastic. And she falls over backwards for tyrants like the Saudis, Erdogan, Netanyahu, and the orange faced moron, Trump.

    Hopefully, there will be a way of retaining our citizenship of the EU, even if it means paying for it. At least that way of things get too bad we can escape and claim asylum in Ireland or France, or somewhere else civilised.

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    1. Jake,
      Thanks for The Gods of the Copybook Headings. With apologies to Rudyard Kipling, I’ll add a wee coda-

      As surely as fish swim in water, as surely as birds fly in air
      As surely as Labour are clueless, as surely as Tories don’t care
      As surely as LibDems betray you for position, status and cash
      The Gods of the Copybook Headings laugh at us,and will ‘til the Sun burns to ash.

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  12. Tris……Rest assured that BOTH of your comments got through for me. The first one at the end of my last comment on the thread with Jake, and the second one after the comment by Grumpyscottishman.

    I can understand the concern about what May could do. I must study this matter of “statutory instruments” that can be used to do things without parliamentary debate. On that basis the situation would seem to be worse than simply not having a constitution and bill of rights. I had assumed that anything would require debate and a vote in parliament at least.

    There was of course also great fear when our own right wing populist demagogue was surprisingly elected. Fearful even WITH the office of president effectively inferior in domestic matters to Congress, and also hamstrung fourteen ways from Sunday by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is sometimes comforting that Washington more often than not manages to do absolutely NOTHING. 😉

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