BRITISH FOREIGN POLICY

Invite this bloke to take tea with the Queen…

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…and refuse entry to this bloke.

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Great Brutish Christian Values, Amber? “Suffer the little children to come unto me”?

You’re a total bloody embarrassment, Rudd. Thank god you are not Scottish.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dubs-amendment-amber-rudd-kent-council-child-refugees-calais-a7571931.html

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  1. “I want to read you something from Amber Rudd’s speech yesterday. ‘For the state must draw a sharp line of distinction between those who, as members of the nation, are the foundation and support of its existence and greatness, and those who are domiciled in the state, simply as earners of their livelihood there.’

    “Very important that firms declare how much of their workforce is foreign because they’re just domiciled in this state simply as earners of their livelihood there. They’re not members of the nation, they’re not members of the foundation and the support of the nation’s existence and greatness.

    “You have to have a sharp line of distinction between those who are members of the nation and those who are just domiciled here as earners of their livelihoods.

    “No, that wasn’t from Amber Rudd’s speech yesterday, I’m really sorry, that’s from Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler.”

    James O’Brian

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    1. I remember that well. When the Tory Party react to being called fascists, we can always point them back in the direction of the conference of 2016.
      Rudd’s speech, like that of Hunt was a disgrace.

      James O’Brian’s piece was brilliant.

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  2. Ah good old Amber Rudd Hmm …

    I have to admit to be being a wee bit confused here Tris.

    Is she a member of:

    a) the Conservative party
    b) UKIP
    c) the Nazi party
    d) a combination of all three

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  3. tris,

    That is some powerful imagery that you have going on there. It would take a person of zero moral compass to refuse the child. Hell, I would take the child, though I would not be my first choice as a carer, I could at least provide a place of safety.

    What is going on with this country?

    This Westminster government is deliberately brutalising us, so that we become like them, lobotomised mind damaged pieces of shite. Refusing a child in desperation admittance, yet rolling the red carpet out for a freak like Trump?

    You have no idea how angry I am about the direction of travel of the UK.

    Or maybe you do, and fellow Munguinites do know, we have got to get out of this place

    …. It is untenable on a moral or ethical base. The other arguements are minor compared to that.

    1639 followers? Well, at least it is a start.

    Best wishes.

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    1. I do know we have to get out of this place, Douglas.

      I too would gladly take in a refugee kid and share what I have with whoever he or she was. I fail to understand the morality of this Britain.

      The head of state tells us that everything she has ever done in her life has been dictated by the teachings of Christ. The prime minister says she prays for guidance. I fail to see how these two things from the supposed power of the Uk can possibly be squared with Rudd’s inhuman treatment of children in desperate need and in serious danger.

      The Archbishop of their own church has given them a good round of his guns.

      Not that they’ll care! Religion is all show for some.

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  4. Failed attempt to reply. Anyway, round two.

    “I too would gladly take in a refugee kid and share what I have with whoever he or she was. I fail to understand the morality of this Britain.”

    Well, that’s two of us. What is interesting is that two people that have never met – you and me – want to do the best for hurt, frail children, and that the grandiose country we live in does not. Whilst the narrow one does.

    I suspect that most of your followers might feel likewise?

    1639 and counting?

    Best wishes, again.

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  5. When I heard that the UK was not taking any more child refugees I thought that I would take one. I may not be fit to according to the powers that be, but I know I have enought love to share with a child and my husband and I would look after the child and give it a safe place to thrive. We could offer it support and a chance in life. We are both in our late 50’s but we still have enought life about us to look after someone who has lost everything and everyone. Where are people’s humanity? It is not enough to say we send them money. They need compassion and a place to call home.

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    1. I agree. Sending money helps,a t least some times. But actually doing something is important.

      What heart couldn’t go out to a kid that had suffered what some of them have suffered. Well Katie Hopkins’ and Amber Rudd’s I suspect. Two of a kind.

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    2. Bamstick,

      Inspiring post.

      And no government should have the right to interfere with your best of intentions. I agree, we should both offer homes to these children no matter what the government says.

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  6. tris

    me brother er not the first one who was declared fit for work
    and reinstated after appeals etc .
    so having failed that one they decided to call brother no two in
    and declared him fit for work now on appeal………
    he who has been disabled all his life apparently he is able to walk
    slightly more than last time so is now mobile although with stick
    also it was said he gave good eye contact what the feck its all a
    bit Kafkaesque obviously he got docs notes etc but to no avail
    good eye contact done for him apparently…so off to tribunal
    when we were children they used to break his legs to reset his
    bones to try to straighten them leaving him to spend weeks just
    laying in bed .
    he has been classed as disabled for years and years and years and
    I can vouch for that but now after all those pain filled years he is
    miraculously cured by the DWP more powerful than god able to
    cure the lame by interview.
    the family is in a state of shock and hopeful the tribunal see sense
    but the first appeal threw out all the medical evidence and upheld
    the prior finding.
    problem is as me brother won is that the right expression in the end
    we imagine he will as well but we could be disappointed there..
    its a surreal nightmare and new Labour started this .

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    1. Niko,

      “he has been classed as disabled for years and years and years and
      I can vouch for that but now after all those pain filled years he is
      miraculously cured by the DWP more powerful than god able to
      cure the lame by interview.”

      That is the issue that almost everyone here has with Westminster government and it’s minions. We really need to get away from jumped up politicians determining life and death, they are not capable of giving the judgements that they do.

      Best wishes to you and yours.

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    2. Niko

      Tell your brother not to give up. My brother was also told he had “good eye contact” and was therefore not suffering from anxiety and depression. He was also told that he did not shake and sweat enough!!! He was passed 100% fit to work and the doctor who examined him said at the end. “I’m sorry, but I have to pass you as fit. They (the government) insist that I do. Good luck.”

      It took my brother almost all that he could muster but he did, with the support of his family, keep on trying and is now in the Support Group for ESA. He got a letter from his GP that said to force him back to work would make his condition much worse. He tried to get help from other agencies but they all said he had to go to work. If they decide to put him through the whole thing again I worry that he will take his own life.

      We, as a society, must protect the vulnerable and those of us who can shoulder more should readily accept that some others can’t.

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        1. I think most of the people who work for these companies are not doctors, Illy. At a time of such desperate need in the NHS, why would a decent doctor work for a cowboy outfit depriving people of their income, when there are folk in surgeries and hospitals all over the UK desperate for healthcare?

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    3. Niko. I’m truly sorry to hear that. It breaks my heart to hear what these bastards are doing to people who already have enough pain and hurt in their lives.

      And all to save a few miserable quid so that Philip Green can spend another £500 miilion on a third yacht.

      Doesn’t much matter who started it. We have to stop it.

      I’m thinking of him. Go get some adive on how to fight the case. CAB , his doctors, if there is any organisation for people who suffer from what it is your brother has.

      Take whatever advice you can and put together a good argument .

      I hope these politicians can live with themselves. No, on reflection I don’t.

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      1. I know I’m not quite on the same track here, but for a number of years good people in our area have been organising clothing collections, another one next week, which we send, via the conduit of Glasgow The Caring City, to refugees, mainly in Serbia. I quite realise this isn’t the same as providing a welcome to Scotland for these poor people who have been uprooted from their own country, in a lot of cases due the military action by the U.K and their allies, but until we gain control of our own immigration policy, I’m afraid it’s the best, at least locally, we can do.
        Our M.P has visited Calais and seen for himself the dreadful conditions in which these children live, and quite frankly it would break your heart to hear some of their stories about the deprivation and abuses they have suffered. And of course they at the mercy of people traffickers, and do any of us know who many of these children “disappear”, to suffer even more abuse, and perhaps even death.
        I don’t consider myself a Christian, I’ve made too many mistakes in my life, but how any human being could fail to be moved be the suffering of these children, is beyond me.
        I’ve often read that the mark of a nation is how it treats the most vulnerable in society, so for that reason, and that reason alone, we must become an independent nation, and end the situation where we treat, not only people from another country, but our own people who need our care to survive without being “sanctioned” by an uncaring system, to a swift conclusion.

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        1. I agree, Alex.

          I don’t think for a second that the mark of being a good person is to be a Christian. That’s another piece of propaganda we were all taught at school. You can be a good person and of any or no religion. What you cannot be is a Christian if you are a bad person.

          I only make the point becasue we have it thrown in our faces all the time about how our leaders are Christians, as if that is something that marks them out above others.

          It doesn’t.

          And they are not. Even if they go to church every Sunday and pray for guidance.

          A good person couldn’t turn his or her back on kids in these conditions.

          Amber Rudd and her boss are not good people, no matter what religion the follow.

          I hope that soon we will be able to take our place as an independent country and behave like human beings. Not just to people in Calais, but to people like Niko’s brother who are subjected to this horror at the hands of the UK government.

          In my opinion, if the queen were a real Christian she would refuse to have one of her houses done up at the cost of half a billion pounds, while there are people in need.

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      2. Illy
        “Why the hell aren’t people going after these doctors with malpractice lawsuits?”

        I think in my brother’s case for two reasons:

        1. He did not feel that the “doctor” who questioned him had any choice. I spoke to him about it recently and he felt that the man was sympathetic but under strict orders. My brother remembers that the “doctor” was from South Africa, and was not a specialist in Mental Health issues. The “doctor” was very apologetic.

        2. My brother could not subject himself to an ordeal like taking someone to court. He has difficulties with normal everyday living and he does not have the strength to put up that kind on fight.

        This is how the Government win, they pick on those who are unable to stand up to them. Like big bullies in the playground.

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  7. Alex Beveridge and trispw,

    I agree with the both of you.

    “I’ve often read that the mark of a nation is how it treats the most vulnerable in society, so for that reason, and that reason alone, we must become an independent nation, and end the situation where we treat, not only people from another country, but our own people who need our care to survive without being “sanctioned” by an uncaring system, to a swift conclusion.”

    Couldn’t agree the more. Especially as it applies to children seeking sanctuary.

    And trispw, I am an atheist. What you said:

    “I don’t think for a second that the mark of being a good person is to be a Christian. That’s another piece of propaganda we were all taught at school. You can be a good person and of any or no religion. What you cannot be is a Christian if you are a bad person.

    I only make the point becasue we have it thrown in our faces all the time about how our leaders are Christians, as if that is something that marks them out above others.

    It doesn’t.

    And they are not. Even if they go to church every Sunday and pray for guidance.”

    If our beloved leaders go to church on Sundays the guidance they receive from their God is a bit suspect.

    I was, am, overwhelmed by the images you put up here. That says it. Straight to the man. No intermediary need for a God, just human sentiment from you, touching me. It is pretty impressive stuff that you do here.

    Best wishes.

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  8. Bamstick:

    I worked for 9 months for jobcentre. My recollection is that on the staff there were some seriously good, decent people; people who probably went into that job with the aim of helping people find work.

    There were also little people who actually enjoyed throwing their weight about. Power over people. Mind, as you say, they only picked on people who wouldn’t fight back. As a result, the people who REALLY were swinging the lead got off with it.

    You know in that kind of job that there are people who will be waiting for you at 5 o’clock with some of their mates and a baseball bat, and others who will just go home and despair.

    When I was there, 17 years ago, the management was incredibly target driven. They were almost without exception, utterly crap. Promotion seems to be by Buggin’s Turn, and it’s almost impossible to get rid of people. I remember being told to phone employers to see if they wouldn’t like to take some people on, because the manager was under her target for the month. I refused, of course. That was 17 years ago. Before the bankers wrecked the economy. Before the government of red, blue and yellow Tories decided that the people who should pay for this monumental stupidity should be the poor, sick, unemployed, disabled, marginalised, because we couldn’t afford to lose the bankers to Frankfurt, Luxembourg, New York or Mumbai. That was before Gordon Brown employed Atos, good socialist that he wasn’t.

    We talk about there being 1.6 million unemployed, but they can’t get anyone into work. (The reason is that most of them are either over 50, and no one wants them, or they have criminal records [prison works], or they simply aren’t able for the jobs that today’s world has to offer.) So instead of reducing the “welfare” bill by getting folk into work, they reduce it by sanction and by choosing any which way to reduce the amount of money that people get. What it does to people is of no account.

    The one thing that they never challenge is the right o landlords to put slum properties up for rent at exorbitant rates, allowing people to claim housing benefit which goes straight to those slum landlords. Odd that!

    British values. Or as I said Brutish Christain values.

    Be ashamed, Mayhem.

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    1. Ashamed, I’m afraid the present incumbents in Government at Westminster don’t know the meaning of the word, and the same goes for their predecessors. I have many relatives living in England, and for some reason they they are swallowing all the lies told to them, not only by the politicians, but by the M.S.M. They seem quite content to believe the untruths about immigration, apparently not realising that it was the rich and powerful who brought us to our present state.
      The demonising of the most vulnerable in our society is a sickness of the mind, propogated by some of the most despicable people in power today, who seem quite content for their own twisted aims to make sure we remain in their clutches, and subservient to their every whim.
      Campaigning during the last Scottish Independence Referendum, I let myself be imbued with a false sense of confidence, mainly due to the fact that we were doing so well in our constituency, and indeed we returned a Yes majority, so we have to get it right the next time, as I don’t think I could stand the disappointment a second time around.

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      1. The BBC and the right wing press, the most extreme of which is largely read by vast numbers…I’m talking the Sun, Express, Star and Mail… tells them that they can’t get a house because of foreigners.

        They don’t stop to think that the price of an average “affordable” house in England wasn’t put out of their range by foreigners. And the lack of rented accommodation has nothing to do with immigrants, but the fact that they stopped building them.

        They can’t get a hospital bed because of foreigners, they are told, when the truth is that it’s a lack of realisation that an ageing population needs more and more medical care (and more medical care is possible these days) and that an elderly population that is likely to live into its 90s, will get bigger and bigger, while we put less money into looking after it and families can’t or won’t look after their elderly at home becasue they all live in shoe boxes and there is no room.. THAT is what is causing the crisis.

        They can’t get their kids into school… becasue there isn’t enough money spent on schools. The parents of the immigrant children are almost always working and paying tax, and paying local taxes. So what’s the problem? The councils aren’t getting enough money, and aren’t raising enough money but they won’t put taxes up..

        They can’t get a job because of immigrants. Nonsense. When I started working with long term unemployed in 1997 that was what they all said. There were almost no immigrants in Dundee save for a few Chinese who had restaurants, Indians likewise and some Pakistanis who had corner shops and a few Italians with chip shops. None of them were unemployed and almost none worked outside their family businesses, except maybe the odd doctor or university lecturer.

        They got that excuse from the Sun. It was just that it was meant for Sun readers in maybe Bradford or East London… not Dundee. I remember saying to one lad “What foreigners?” He looked totally stumped. He’d not taken the argument any farther in his empty head.

        At that stage they also used to blame the fact that they had had unsettled, unstable childhoods. They got that from the Sun too.

        The numpty press is responsible for a lot of the crap that they believe.

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    2. trispw

      My brother made a mistake last year. He should have told the DWP that he had a change of circumstances but he was terrified that if he put his head above the parapet that they would re-assess him. So a few months ago they “caught-up with him”. The letters that he was sent used such dispicable language that he hid them for a while, not sure what to do. Eventually when he had built up the couragous he showed them to family members and they have dealt with the issues for him. As he didn’t do the right thing, as far as the DWP are concerned, he has had to pay a £50 fine.

      The way I see it is that his weakness is being played on by the Government, he is an easy target to fine and to belittle.

      Each time he has been re-assessed, a total of five time now, he has his benefits completely stopped. Once this lasted for nine months. He had to rely on family for money. And they wonder why he was very concerned about getting in touch with them.

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      1. I’m sitting here shaking my head.

        What kind of country goes for vulnerable people to save the money that the bankers squandered.

        I’ve no words for it… not that I could put on a family site.

        Just sorrow and shame that we are part of this.

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  9. Just out of curiosity and a wish to do some good on this godforsaken planet. Who is the kid in the second photo? How could we support him? He really looks like he needs some support. I’ll take him in if there are not better options for him. But the kid should not be sitting there looking terribly alone.

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    1. I think his name is Omran, he is 5, and there, he is in an ambulance, after a bombing in Syria.

      His brother was killed in the raid. He is, as you can tell in a state of shock.

      But at least he is alive.

      All over the Middle East there are people who have been bombed by the West. In particular by Britain and America, but sometimes France too (notably not in Iraq).

      I shake my head in wonderment at why people can’t see that if you illegally bomb the hell out of a country because they have WMDs (when they don’t); then change your reasons for war to “regime change” (illegal). When in doing all this you kill thousands of totally innocent people, including many children, maim tens of thousands more, destabilise the country to the extent that it becomes a failed state with no effective government, allow Al Qaeda to establish itself there, allow Al Quaeda to become IS and to spread its evil over most of the Middle East, and do nothing about people living in refugee camps in Jordan and Lebanon (20% of the population) and then refuse to take unaccompanied children in… then these people might want to take revenge. Hmmmm, possible?

      Seriously, if someone did that to London, would Theresa sit on her hands or pray to her god or what?

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  11. I am perfectly serious about giving Omran sanctuary. Perhaps not the best offer of a surrogate father, but better than what he has. Does anyone have the faintest idea how that could be achieved?

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    1. I’m not sure that Omran is actually looking for sanctuary here, Douglas. My point was Omran is an example of the kids we are turning down while hosting an orange-faced racist, sexist batty muppet who is an embarrassment to decency.

      I know that you can’t adopt from outside (or soon inside) the EU, because the child would have the right to be in Scotland.

      I’m never certain what is the best thing to do. I’d gladly take a couple of children and look after them, but it’s not allowed.

      I suspect a decent country will take up our slack.

      I’m not desperately in favour of handing money to big charities which spend a lot of it on head offices in up-market London addresses.

      A local charity working for refugees is the best bet. There was one in Dundee which made many journeys to Calais.

      You may have one locally.

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      1. “I know that you can’t adopt from outside (or soon inside) the EU, because the child would have the right to be in Scotland.”

        I know times have changed and all of that but I had an acquaintance that adopted two Vietnamese kids during the US’s war against summat or other in SE Asia. I hadn’t realised the rules had changed.

        I feel more disenfranchised than I did five minutes ago. How dare a country restrict my compassion.

        I’ll see if I can find a local charity.

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        1. Well, I’m not an expert or anything, but I remember that after the overthrow of the Romanian dictator they found orphanages full of kids in the most horrific state of neglect. To be fair people from around the world wanted to adopt, but it was incredibly hard. I didn’t try, but my mother’s church had a lorry that went regularly to Romanian filled with stuff for the kids. We were able to help there.

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